Date: 2/1/18 8:04 am
From: Jeff Harding <jeffharding...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Talking Water Gardens Swallows and Teal

You are correct that female Cinnamon and Blue-winged are quite similar; and Blue-winged is rare in Oregon in the winter. I could certainly be wrong, and would not bet the farm on the identification. This hen has cool gray tones in the head, strong white eye-arcs, and a dark line through the eye. In addition the bill appears less spatulate than a Cinnamon typically has. But I’ve been looking at these teal at Talking Water Gardens for some time, and they are quite approachable. There appears to be a clinal relationship in the characteristics of the hens, and it may be that there is a genetic mixture, as shown by the drake.

For what it’s worth, other birders, good ones, have identified Blue-winged Teal here, and this one looks like the one in other’s photos. But there are doubtless subtleties I’m missing.



From: <shovelor...> [mailto:<shovelor...>]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 7:48 AM
To: <jeffharding...>
Cc: <obol...>; <birding...>
Subject: Re: [obol] Talking Water Gardens Swallows and Teal

What makes you so confident that the hen isn’t a cinnamon hen? From my experience they are very similar, and seeing as it appears to be paired with a cinnamon drake, and given the wintering location (where a blue wing would be quite rare) this seems to be the most likely conclusion.

Not trying to stir things up, but this appears to be a cinnamon teal pair. Good birding!


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On Feb 1, 2018, at 7:09 AM, <jeffharding...> <jeffharding...> wrote:

There were both Tree and Barn Swallows at Talking Water Gardens (Albany, Linn County) yesterday. At least two of the Barn and one of the Tree, at least two more I failed to get a good look at.

There were two pairs of teal in the central channel. One of the hens was a Blue-winged Teal, and the drake Cinnamon with it appeared to have Blue-winged traits, extensive spotting on the sides, and a pale area in the front of it's face. Here's a photo:

Good birding,


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