Date: 1/22/18 9:32 am
From: Weiskotten, Kurt <kweiskotten...>
Subject: Re: Hawks being shot and killed
Here in NY, I have raised free range chickens for 10 years. They are kept in a coop or fenced yard when no one is home.
The vast majority of my chicken loss has been from Coopers Hawks. Of course I have plenty of bird feeders that bring them around more often, but hey hawks need to eat too! Red tails abound as well, but they have never taken a chicken, although I'm sure they do elsewhere. Occasionally, a grey fox gets one, and rarely a coyote. But I would never shoot a hawk - it is after all against the law - without a permit. If these people are raising chickens as a living and for income then they should pursue the nuisance predator route. Otherwise hawk kills are part of owning chickens.

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From: Millis, Tracy
Date: Mon, Jan 22, 2018 12:15 PM
To: <carolinabirds...>;
Subject:RE: Hawks being shot and killed

I wouldn’t be surprised if coyotes were the major culprit in the disappearances of the farmer’s chickens, not hawks.

Tracy L. Millis
Chapel Hill, NC

From: <carolinabirds-request...> [mailto:<carolinabirds-request...>] On Behalf Of Christopher Hill
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 11:52 AM
To: birds <carolinabirds...>
Subject: Re: Hawks being shot and killed

Also, for what it’s worth, it’s often Cooper’s Hawks taking the chickens. The Cooper’s Hawks, appear, grab one, take off, as Cooper’s Hawks are wont to do. The chicken owners see a Red-tail and shoot it because they’re big and obvious. But not always the guilty party, in fact usually not.

Chris Hill
Conway, SC

On Jan 22, 2018, at 11:02 AM, <scompton1251...><mailto:<scompton1251...> wrote:

Teri Lynn,

Studies done in the 30's showed that Red-tailed Hawks and other birds of prey are a net benefit to domestic fowl, as they prefer rodents and control rodent populations that prey on eggs. While law enforcement can be used as a last resort the better method is to provide the farmer with education.
The Clemson Extension agent could be helpful.

Steve Compton
Greenville, SC
From: "Herbert, Teri Lynn" (via carolinabirds Mailing List)"
To: "Carolinabirds Listserve"
Sent: 22-Jan-2018 15:25:39 +0000
Subject: Hawks being shot and killed

I know it is illegal to kill birds of prey. I met some people living out
in the country this weekend whose chickens are being taken by the red
tailed hawks; they are free range chickens, so are out and about all the
time. This is in Georgetown County near Williamsburg County. They stated
that they have shot several red tails in the past few weeks to try and
save their chickens. But there are still hawks taking the chickens. (I
saw, heard two while there).

I suggested keeping chickens penned, getting a Great Pyrenees dog (like
my goat farm lady uses to protect her chickens, which are penned). I also
pointed out that killing hawks was illegal, but it didnąt seem to bother
them. I was quite distraught.
I donąt know the names of farmers, but what can be done about this?

Thanks for any advice.

Teri Lynn
back in Charleston now

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