Date: 1/8/18 11:50 am
From: Steve Valasek <botheringbirds...>
Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] SEAZ: Las Cienegas LAPLAND LONGSPUR continues today
I really don't want to stir the pot, but I think the problem here is one of
wording. The location of the longspurs is at a muddy pond; however, the
location of the hotspot is at a metal-cylindrical structure that holds
water. Some people call those tanks, while the pond the birds are at are
also called tanks in the west, is this true?


On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 10:42 AM trose <trose...> wrote:

> The problem with locating the Longspur hotspot may be simply that there
> was already an existing hotspot for Davis Pasture, but located a short ways
> farther north along the two-track going in, and not at the tank itself. The
> new Longspur hotspot is indeed at the tank, but when one looks for a Davis
> Pasture hotspot in eBird, the previous hotspot also shows up. Betsy may
> have simply been going by that hotspot for her location on her phone. (Do
> we still need two hotspots there now? Or should they be combined? I only
> ask because I noticed some of the previous eBird lists at the "old"
> hotspot, going back several years, do include sightings from the tank
> itself.)
> Either way, this sure ends up being a fortuitously timely conversation for
> me, because a short bit before I left for a holiday vacation to Texas last
> month, I had taken a trip to Las Cienegas (not entered on eBird yet) and
> had actually driven to the entrance to Davis Pasture for the first time, in
> hopes of seeing Longspurs of some sort. Not being familiar with protocol at
> this site at all, since I'd never been there before, I was disappointed
> when I saw a gate - and so turned around and left to go home. Darn. Guess I
> will have to try again! :-P
> Tonya Holland
> Three Points AZ
> ------------------------------
> On 1/7/18 1:36 PM, Laurens Halsey wrote:
> The hotspot is located exactly where it is supposed to be, at the stock
> tank where the longspurs are being observed. The last 0.4 mi of this track
> leading to the stock tank is not considered drivable to Google Maps or
> smart phone navigation software. Therefore smart phone driving directions
> lead you to the closest spot that smart phone technology believes you can
> drive. Drive on as suggested if not in a low clearance vehicle.
> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Betsy Checchia <betsy.checchia...>
> wrote:
>> Be advised that, at least on my phone, the tank is actually about 0.4
>> miles farther along the two-track road from where the hotspot is located.
>> Go beyond the power line, to the top of the next hill, and you can see the
>> tank at the bottom of the hill. Saw Lapland and McCown's Longspurs among
>> many, many Horned Larks.
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