Date: 10/10/17 7:32 am
From: Stephen Holzman <steveholzman2...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Woodhouse's Scrub-Jay in Oregon
Lars point is a good one,and I think to some extent it's already
happening. Before the ability for eBird to store images directly at
the Macaulay Library, people would add links to their photos stored on
Flickr, SmugMug, etc. As those sites disappear, those images embedded
in the checklist are broken and unavailable. I have great hopes that
our research universities do not disappear, so I am more confident
that those images uploaded to the Macaulay Library via your eBird
checklists will remain no matter if Windows or Apple becomes a
footnote in computing history. So, what can you do? Make sure if you
are adding images to your eBird checklist you do so via direct upload.

I recently discovered this: You can
search all images of (for example) Western Sandpiper found in Lincoln
County during September. How awesome is that? While nothing will
compare with researchers being able to handle and observe a specimen
directly at a research museum, this is a decent substitute IMHO.

Steve Holzman
Newport, OR

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 6:55 AM, Lars Per Norgren
<larspernorgren...> wrote:
> These are almost certainly the same two specimens from
> Wildhorse Creek. Andrews had a working PO until at least
> 1965. I'm sure the reference in Hoffman is to these birds, and
> all subsequent literature, including Lehman. G & J may have
> been strongly prejudiced by Bendire, who apparently collected
> no specimens. Woodhouse's Jay in Oregon is getting sketchier
> than Plumbeous Vireo. This certainly shows the importance of
> specimens, which are ultimately expensive to store. The birds
> from Andrews have been someone's physical responsability
> for awhile.
> We are now in an era where bird records are dominated by
> electronic images. How accessible will they be in 100 years?
> lpn
> On Oct 9, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Alan Contreras wrote:
> Need to ask for an i.d. check on those.
> Alan Contreras
> Eugene, Oregon
> <acontrer56...>
> On Oct 9, 2017, at 6:28 PM, Nick Newberry <nickenew1...> wrote:
> The Smithsonian Museum of Natural History lists two Woodhouse’s Scrub-Jays
> from Andrews, Harney County, Oregon taken in 1921 by I. N. Gabrielson (USNM
> 590979) and S. G. Jewett (USMN 299060). Presumably the specimens are still
> housed in Washington, D.C.
> Nick
> On Oct 9, 2017, at 9:22 PM, Dennis Vroman <dpvroman...> wrote:
> "Birds of the Pacific States" by Ralph Hoffmann (1927). Dist: - "Fairly
> common resident locally in the desert ranges of extreme eastern Cal. and in
> the Steen Mts, Harney Col, Ore."
> Could be based on some previously published information.
> Dennis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Crabtree
> To: <acontrer56...>
> Cc: <obol...>
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 5:04 PM
> Subject: [obol] Woodhouse's Scrub-Jay in Oregon
> Another thought on Woodhouse’s Scrub-Jays in Oregon. I’m trying to do some
> research on how they got listed in various places as occurring in Eastern
> Oregon. Gabrielson & Jewett summarize things nicely by noting that Charles
> Bendire, in Life Histories of North American Birds which he wrote in 1895,
> indicated “I observed this species on the southern slopes of Steens
> Mountain, in southeastern Oregon, in August 1877, which locality marks about
> the northwestern limits of their range.” They then note that two birds were
> taken from a small flock along Wild Horse Creek near Andrews on August 8,
> 1921. One of these specimens was placed in the “Biological Survey
> Collection” and the other was in “Gabrielson’s Collection.”
> Does anyone know what became of these collections? There may actually be a
> valid record of this species for Oregon if we can track either one of these
> down. It seems clear, however, that based on scant evidence, the range of
> this bird has been attributed to include Oregon. I have an email in to Paul
> Lehman to find out why he included SE Oregon in the current Nat Geo Guide’s
> range maps.
> Tom Crabtree, Bend
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