Date: 10/9/17 5:32 pm
From: Alan Contreras <acontrer56...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Skinner's Butte "deforestation"
This is a BOO topic.

Alan Contreras
Eugene, Oregon


> On Oct 9, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Joel Geier <joel.geier...> wrote:
> I'm cross-posting this to BOO which may be a better place to carry on,
> if folks want to.
> For starters, I have to say, I generally enjoy Lars' colorful and
> erudite way of expressing himself, even when I disagree.
> In this case, I agree with his remark that "restoration" has become a
> buzzword that can be used to justify almost any anthropogenic
> disturbance.
> In my book, "anthropogenic disturbance" includes a wide range of
> tree-planting projects that were aimed to "restore" riparian forests in
> places that were demonstrably unforested (or at most sparsely wooded)
> grasslands in the mid-1800s. We lost a small but significant population
> of "Oregon" Vesper Sparrows at Luckiamute SNA to one such case of good
> intentions in the early 2000s.
> The current trend toward canopy thinning is still trivial in comparison
> with past and ongoing forestation projects, so I welcome it. There's a
> whole lot of room for the pendulum to swing back the other way, toward
> maintaining open habitats.
> I disagree with Lars on his suggestion that land managers are just doing
> this for "brownie points." Also on most recent projects that I'm aware
> of, there's been an effort to gather baseline data, though budgets are
> limited.
> Finally it's a bit unfair to poke sticks at public land managers because
> many of them are not fully at liberty to defend their actions in this
> forum.
> There are a lot of ways for birders to get involved in the process, for
> any patch of habitat on public land that you care about. Oregon's public
> meeting laws are strict enough that public employees think twice about
> even riding an elevator together, if they didn't publish their plans to
> do so in the local newspaper of record, 5 days in advance.
> So if you want to stay informed, it's easy to do so. You just need to
> pay attention, and consider sacrificing some of your birding time to go
> sit in boring meetings. Public lands managers are generally an
> accommodating bunch. They will generally listen to you, and if you can
> provide them with baseline information, they'll be thrilled.
> But in order to have an influence, birders need to stay informed and
> show up for meetings. Whether we're willing to talk about it on OBOL or
> just push it off to BOO, we need to be a lot more proactive in
> communicating about habitat issues at popular birding sites. Otherwise
> we'll just be stuck with complaining after the fact when these
> developments catch us by surprise -- and honestly, it'll be our own
> fault.
> --
> Joel Geier
> Camp Adair area north of Corvallis
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