Date: 9/12/17 6:50 pm
From: Harry LeGrand (via carolinabirds Mailing List) <carolinabirds...>
Subject: Re: 11 Hudsonian Godwits, Lake Wheeler
I see that report on eBird, to refresh our memory:
9507 S Old Oregon Inlet Rd, Nags Head US-NC (35.8712,-75.5760) Dare, US-NC
Date#Observer
2017-08-18 57
John O'Brien


Harry LeGrand
Raleigh

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 9:39 PM, Kyle Kittelberger <kkturtledude...>
wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> Thought I'd follow up about Michael O'Brien's Hudsonian Godwit flock off
> the Outer Banks. As a friend of his, I let him know his sighting had been
> brought up while discussing Hudsonian high count records in the state. He
> shared that his observation was not 20 birds but an amazing sight of 50+
> Hudsonian's flying in two separate flocks a few minutes apart from one
> another. He further added that this is the most number of Hudsonian's he
> has ever heard of reported on the east coast south of Massachusetts.
>
> Cheers,
> Kyle Kittelberger
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 4:22 PM, Harry LeGrand <
> <carolinabirds...> wrote:
>
>
> Copied from my Birds of North Carolina website, for Hudsonian Godwit:
>
> *Coastal Plain* .....
> Peak counts: 16, Cape Hatteras, 29 Aug 1998; 15, resting on the ocean off
> Oregon Inlet, 25 Aug 1990; 15 at Rodanthe (*Dare*), 8 Sep 2009.
>
> *Piedmont* Casual fall transient (only in the eastern portion), with
> three records: 1, Falls Lake, 21-23 Aug 1999; 2, Falls Lake, 11-15 Sep
> 1988; and 1 (photographed), Lake Wheeler (*Wake*), 27 Aug 2011*.
>
> *Mountains* Accidental fall transient; one record -- 3 at Hooper Lane (
> *Henderson*), 8 Sep 2004* (after Tropical Storm Frances) [Chat 69:49 link
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.carolinabirdclub.org_chat_chatpage.php-3Fvol-3D69-26page-3D49&d=DwMFaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=ymRCw6Q-sBitug_rdeO1Tokz-I_SX2LQN2_Ocvlal9U&m=diwY9FtwuvJ2fK4vwbLCi4vWO18-mIDCR001R6wvEwU&s=pUwsX5-qyW-0-Niw2lOXT_S_KYYr-HJbgFvKgEl5h9E&e=>
> ].
>
> -----
>
> Thus, Michael O'Brien's 20 or so from shore this season would be a state
> record, if it gets published in The Chat (I don't pull data off eBird,
> carolinabirds, etc. -- but wait until records get officially published in
> The Chat or North American Birds before I include them on the website.)
>
> As you can see, the 11 Hudsonians today at Lake Wheeler destroy the
> previous inland high of 3 birds.
>
> I agree with Brian that Hudsonian Godwits don't put down inland unless
> there is some (mostly nighttime?) storminess, etc. Certainly doesn't have
> to be a tropical system. And, winds don't HAVE to be strong from the E or
> NE to force them inland. They nest well inland in Canada and migrate SE
> over inland USA and continue their fall migration south over the ocean or
> along the immediate coast. So, we can't assume these 11 birds blew inland
> from their migration over the ocean. Recall also that Willets, Marbled
> Godwits, and Long-billed Curlews also nest far inland and do not normally
> stop at inland lakes unless there is a nighttime storm that forces them
> down. Thus, whether the godwits were migrating TOWARD the coast and were
> forced down, or were already migrating south over the ocean and were
> carried inland by strong NE winds and then forced down, I guess we may
> never know. (Presumably they were not carried in the eye of Irma up FL and
> then dropped out in NC; that doesn't compute.)
>
> Enjoy them while they are still here -- I did around 12:30 today. Thanks
> for the quick word on c-birds.
>
> Harry LeGrand
> Raleigh
>
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Paul Glass <pag...> wrote:
>
> Interestingly there was a group of 10 photographed near Harrisonburg, VA
> back on 8/29. No storms at the time.
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__urldefense.proofpoint&d=DwIFaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=ymRCw6Q-sBitug_rdeO1Tokz-I_SX2LQN2_Ocvlal9U&m=Iec6nLVqs7di75d9kwGLHK2cSZNuBEGmXcHWizenuXU&s=8WbAl_1hcxc1GarWZTGBM8TCvgV7YEMqFEmExQC97V4&e= . com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ebird.
> org_ebird_view_checklist_ S38894671&d=DwIBAg&c=
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> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ebird.org_ebird_view_checklist_S38894671&d=DwIBAg&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=ymRCw6Q-sBitug_rdeO1Tokz-I_SX2LQN2_Ocvlal9U&m=IQ47uo8XV9imaqXFjQMv3ceNMk4qzq8i0iCqAPB_7c8&s=83CfyMWcFg-IdfP-sH98VjQb0DFgsfBDysJVlS6IwA0&e=>
>
>
> Paul Glass
> South Boston, VA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Patteson [mailto:patteson1@embarqmail. com
> <patteson1...>]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:32 PM
> To: Jamie Adams
> Cc: Steve Compton; <carolinabirds...>
> Subject: Re: 11 Hudsonian Godwits, Lake Wheeler
>
>
> Actually a major dude had the godwits: Michael O'Brien and his brother John
> were watching the ocean from a beach house on vacation up at Nags Head in
> mid August.
>
> I've seen a big bunch offshore back in the 90s. It's probably in the Chat
> somewhere in the seasonal roundup. I've also seen a dozen or more on the
> flooded ground up in Rodanthe during a tropical storm some years back.
>
> Brian Patteson
> Hatteras
>
> > On Sep 12, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Jamie Adams (via carolinabirds Mailing
> > List) <carolinabirds...> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe for inland, but some dude just had like 20 something several
> > weeks ago while ocean watching at OBX.
> >
> > I just had several Jaegers which I am in process of trying to ID and a
> > Sooty Tern and another Red-necked Phalarope at North end of
> > Wrightsville Beach, NC.
> >
> > Jamie Adams
> > Wilmington NC
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: <carolinabirds-request...>
> > [mailto:carolinabirds-request@ duke.edu <carolinabirds-request...>]
> On Behalf Of Steve Compton
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:13 PM
> > To: <carolinabirds...>
> > Cc: <lucasrbobay...>
> > Subject: Re: 11 Hudsonian Godwits, Lake Wheeler
> >
> > Birders,
> >
> > Got to be a record number of Hudsonians for the Carolinas. As you
> > know, they migrate far offshore. Almost certainly a storm blown flock.
> >
> > Steve Compton
> > Greenville, SC
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid
> > On Sep 12, 2017 2:41 PM, Kyle Kittelberger <carolinabirds...>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey everyone,
> >>
> >> As of 2:37, the Godwits are still present and showing very nicely
> >> from the overlook at the end of the trail. Below is the list of
> >> shorebirds I had. Large number of Pectoral Sandpipers on the back,
> >> did not see anything else different among them.
> >>
> >> Killdeer
> >> Hudsonian Godwit- 11
> >> Stilt Sandpiper- 4
> >> Lesser Yellowlegs- 1
> >> Pectoral Sandpiper- 34
> >>
> >> Good birding! Thanks to Lucas for getting the word out about this
> >> awesome sighting. Cheers,
> >>
> >> Kyle Kittelberger
> >> Raleigh, NC
> >>
> >> ------------------------------ --------------
> >> On Tue, 9/12/17, Lucas Bobay <carolinabirds...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Subject: 11 Hudsonian Godwits, Lake Wheeler
> >> To: "<carolinabirds...>" <carolinabirds...>
> >> Date: Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 11:54 AM
> >>
> >> There are currently 11
> >> Hudsonian Godwits at the Lake Wheeler mudflats visible from Penny Rd
> >> (Wake Co NC). Birds are resting, feeding, and preening. Here with
> >> Stacy and Natalie Barbour now. Great birds inland! Lucas BobayRaleigh
> >>
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