Date: 9/2/17 6:33 pm
From: Dwayne Martin (via carolinabirds Mailing List) <carolinabirds...>
Subject: Re: Confusion about Hooper Lane shorebirds, and worrisome eBird filter
The filters for many species were set many years ago, even before I took
over as reviewer for the mountains. Some numbers can slip through the
cracks. Ebird filtering is a continuing process. If anyone runs across
something that doesn't seem right, please feel free to shot me an email and
I will certainly look into it. Hopefully, I have straightened out some of
the shorebird issues raised today.

Dwayne
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J. Dwayne Martin
Hickory, NC
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On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 9:23 PM, Simon Thompson <carolinabirds...>
wrote:

> Hi Harry et al
>
> Thanks for your email re. shorebirds in the mountains. Yes, I agree that
> the e-bird filters are somewhat baffling. We even tested the filter by
> putting in over 20 Buff-breasts - again, no rarity box popped up! As for
> details entered. Never easy to do when you are entering data using the cell
> phone app - all done now!!
>
> Anyway, filters aside - that is for the e-bird regional editors to monitor
> and adjust.
>
> Hooper Lane is without a doubt the finest shorebird habitat in Henderson
> County and this area of the NC Mountains. The flooded fields over the years
> have produced some incredible birds and during bad weather, large numbers
> of shorebirds do drop in to feed and rest. This past spring we had dozens
> of White-rumped Sandpipers in the flooded fields (
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> plus over 50 Semipalmated Sandpipers the same day.
>
> As for large plovers, both species have been present this past week. I
> have personally seen the Black-bellied Plovers, but the Am Goldens have
> eluded me on 2 visits. Multiple observers have seen the Goldens, so they
> are certainly around. There are photos on e-bird proving these sightings.
> Both species are regularly seen during spring and fall migration - weather
> depending of course.
>
> There are many tracks to explore and it could take you all day to walk the
> road beds to find any of the flooded areas. These usually occur where the
> sod has been harvested, but due to work gong on most days, the birds
> constantly move from field to field. In other words, there are lots of
> places where birds can be, and consequently, lots of birds. Plus a lot of
> the area is private property- hence, no access.
>
> As for my reports today, I stood in 1 spot on Jeffress Road and never
> walked into any of the fields. The Black-bellied Plovers were at least 1.5
> miles away from my position the previous day, so I never bothered to go
> that far. All of the shorebirds I reported today were from this one
> location! And yes, there were NO peeps present except the Baird's......the
> previous visit we had 1 Least......that's all!. As for Buff-breasted
> Sandpipers, yes, we had 7 today and 9 yesterday.
>
> To conclude, yes e-bird filters are a little odd for shorebirds in the
> mountains. The other day we had over 100 Killdeer (e-bird flagged!) and
> over 80 Eastern Kingbird migrating over (e-bird not flagged!) How often do
> we see 80 Kingbirds in one day? Never!
>
> Anyway, we do need to add as much data as we can with shorebirds in the
> mountains. Photos are useful, but plumage descriptions are also important.
> E-bird is not perfect, but it's an awesome tool that can add so much to our
> knowledge of birds here in the mountains and throughout North Carolina.
>
> Fun Birding
> Simon
>
> Simon Thompson
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> On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 8:11 PM, Harry LeGrand <carolinabirds...>
> wrote:
>
>> The eBird filter for both Baird's Sandpiper and Buff-breasted Sandpiper
>> inland baffles me! It has Baird's as rare in the Piedmont, and maybe
>> inland Coastal Plain, but NOT in the mountains? Simon Thompson just
>> reported a whopping *NINE *Baird's Sandpiper (no details required, nor
>> any given); this a record inland count in NC, by far! He also reported
>> SEVEN Buff-breasted Sandpipers, again with no details required or given.
>> Buff-breasted obviously is not filtered as rare in the mountains and maybe
>> other inland sites. Yes, Simon is an excellent observer, and Baird's (one
>> only) has been photographed there in the past few days; it's the eBird
>> filtering that is the concern with me.
>>
>> Both of these species inland ought to be listed as rare (i.e., as
>> write-ins), and details should be provided on eBird, especially with the
>> filter not catching 9 Baird's Sandpipers.
>>
>> Also, the large plover ratios there in the past two days have been
>> interesting. Only one person has reported BOTH Black-bellieds and Am.
>> Goldens on the same day/trip. Interestingly, James Poling provided
>> excellent photos yesterday of some of the 5 Black-bellieds there, but he
>> nor others had Am. Goldens yesterday. Today, some folks are reporting
>> Black-bellieds, and I see that only Michael Robertson has reported Am.
>> Goldens -- 4 of them!. I had assumed that was an ID error, but his photos
>> on eBird clearly show about four Am. Goldens, in at least partial breeding
>> plumage!! Apparently, the shorebird area out there in the Hooper Road area
>> is extensive enough that some observers are missing some of these things.
>>
>> Harry LeGrand
>> author/editor, Birds of North Carolina website.
>>
>> P.S. It is disturbing to me that of the shorebirds that Simon reported
>> today:
>> 7 Semipalmated Plover
>> 15 Killdeer
>> 1 Sanderling
>> 9 Baird's Sandpiper
>> 7 Buff-breasted Sandpiper
>>
>> that: 1) he saw no large plovers, 2) the only peep species reported was
>> Baird's, and 3) only Sanderling was filtered by eBird as rare! I think
>> some details on 9 Baird's Sandpipers, and no other peeps reported, should
>> be given either on eBird or carolinabirds.
>>
>>
>

 
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