Date: 4/30/17 9:32 am
From: Sally Jo Gibson <sjogibson...>
Subject: Re: Whooping Cranes and other rare birds
David & Glenn,
I agree with both of you. When I read the post where one of the birders from the SW part of Arkansas had tried to get someone “Banned” from posting on this list, I was appalled. I know who he was trying to get banned. This person (one of my former students) has contributed so much to the education of and in getting non-birders involved, not only in birding but in the environment as well. I just could hardly believe the arrogance of someone who thinks so highly of himself that he would make an attempt to ban anyone from this list. I know where I stand on the level of my birding. (I have a master’s degree in music education, not in ornithology.) However, as a teacher, one of my students once told me that he saw my role as a teacher as being an encourager. So now, as an old woman, I see my role as a birder to encourage non-birders to become aware of birds. That’s the reason for my posting pictures on Facebook. You’d be surprised how many former students and friends have become interested in birding, just from seeing my bird pictures. (I am also not a professional photographer. I just love to take bird pictures from my enclosed back porch that I refer to as Birdsview Solarium.)
I don’t want anyone banned from this site. We all have a niche to fill in this journey called life.
Sally Jo Gibson
Harrison, AR

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From: David Oakley<mailto:<gdosr...>
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 9:34 AM
To: <ARBIRD-L...><mailto:<ARBIRD-L...>
Subject: Re: Whooping Cranes and other rare birds

You have a point Glenn. There does exist such a group apparently. How to decide those that are privileged and those that are not is not known to me. Guess only "good" birders are "in". One would think that only folks really interested in birds would bother to join the LIST. Maybe the in group believes otherwise!

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On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:07 AM, Glenn <000001214b3fcb01-dmarc-request...><mailto:<000001214b3fcb01-dmarc-request...>> wrote:
Since joining this list service, I have tried to be a good member. I try to always let people know when I spot a rare, or uncommon bird. Or a bird I believe to be unusual, or possibly never seen in a particular area before. I thought that was the point. Recently, I have learned that if the bird is really rare or special, there is a group of birders who keep them secret and conspire to keep that information from us “common” birders. For instance, two Whooping Cranes were spotted near Cherry Valley. It is my understanding that Whooping Cranes haven’t been spotted in Arkansas in about 100 years. Instead of giving birders notice so we can all go and see this beautiful bird, a group of birding insiders kept it to themselves. Sure, they told their friends, and took their families up to see them. But they all agreed to not tell the rest of us until the birds were gone. Why? Well, they say it was because they wanted to protect the birds? Did it work? No. One of the birds was eventually hit by a car and killed. Perhaps, if a couple cars of birders were parked alongside the road at the time, getting to see a rare bird, that car would have slowed down and become aware of the crane and not killed it. Perhaps. The birds were easily seen from a public road. I have to say, this has totally destroyed my faith in birders that I used to look up to. I believed they were in this so all birders can enjoy seeing birds. But, evidently, there is an insider group that are allowed to know when a rare bird is in the state, while the rest of us are not. Since I believe in following the rules, as established by these insiders, I will no longer report a rare or unusual bird until I know it has left the area. I will not report my birds on eBird until at least 2 weeks after the fact. It is only right that we all follow the same rules.

Glenn Wyatt
Cabot, AR

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