Date: 4/20/17 2:13 pm
From: Jeffrey Tufts <jctufts33...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Fwd: Possible State bird replacements for Western Meadowlark
Has anyone asked why Senator Girod is interested in changing the state bird
of Oregon ? According to the biography on his web page, he was elected to
the State House of Representatives in 1992 and 2006. He was appointed to
the State Senate in 2008. Is making the Osprey the state bird of Oregon a
pet project in which he's been engaged for many years? Or did he just
recently take up the cause? If the latter, why after so many years ?

It would seem that any discussion on OBOL about possible replacements
(other than Osprey) gives Senator Girod (and his supporters in this
cause--whoever they are) added encouragement and ammuntion.

In the Western Meadowlark, Oregon has a wonderful state bird. Sorry to see
that anyone on OBOL is even considering any other species.

Jeff Tufts
Medford OR

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:45 PM, George Neavoll <gneavoll...>

> Begin forwarded message:
> *From: *George Neavoll <gneavoll...>
> *Subject: **Re: [obol] Possible State bird replacements for Western
> Meadowlark*
> *Date: *April 20, 2017 1:42:17 PM PDT
> *To: *<jmoodie...>
> *Cc: *OBOL Birders Online <obol...>
> There is absolutely nothing wrong with Oregon's having the beautiful - in
> body and song - Western Meadowlark as our state bird. If other states
> wanted to follow our lead in designating the meadowlark - 90 YEARS AGO - as
> several have, more power to them. They, too, have chosen a beautiful bird.
> More than beauty is involved here, though. The Western Meadowlark was a
> common bird as I was growing up in the Willamette Valley in the '40s and
> '50s, but no more. Loss of habitat and other factors impelled them to leave
> many of their old familiar haunts, or disappear altogether. They need every
> bit of help they can get, and if its designation as Oregon's state bird
> does that, even to a small degree, that is a good thing.
> Legislators made a good choice in 1927 when they made the Western
> Meadowlark our state bird. It wouldn't take much for them to take up the
> "bird of the moment," and go with it instead. Let's not encourage them.
> S.W. Portland
> On Apr 20, 2017, at 1:06 PM, Jim Moodie wrote:
> I did a quick scan of ranges using Thayer’s Birding Software version 7.
> Using the eyeball test for species with broad distribution in the state,
> but fairly restricted outside of the state, I came up with:
> Mountain Quail (can be hard to see)
> Flammulated Owl (ditto)
> Rufous Hummingbird (I ignored ranges into Canada. OK, and Alaska)
> Red-breasted Sapsucker
> White-headed Woodpecker
> Cassin’s Vireo
> Pacific Wren
> Hermit Warbler
> Wilson’s Warbler (ignoring Canada again)
> Given the restrictions of range to the west side of the state for Hermit
> Warbler, I would lean towards Rufous Hummingbird: green and orange (UO &
> OSU alumni can get behind this), colorful, entertaining, easy to see with a
> feeder in place, and feisty! There are no hummer species representing any
> state at present.
> Cheers,
> jim
> Dr. Jim Moodie
> Science Dept
> *From:* <obol-bounce...> [mailto:<obol-bounce...>] *On
> Behalf Of *Tyler Hallman
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:32 AM
> *To:* Wayne Hoffman
> *Cc:* Darrel Faxon; Oregon Birders OnLine
> *Subject:* [obol] Re: hermit warbler questions
> I'm all for it. I'd take the Hermit or Townsend's Warbler over Osprey.
> Despite the history of the Western Meadowlark as the state bird, it has
> always bothered me how many other states have it.
> We seem to have conflicting requirements here.
> 1. *Statewide*: We want a bird that is present throughout the state.
> 2. *Uniquely Oregonian*: We want a bird that is not common in other
> states.
> Oregon is a large diverse state. It would be quite difficult to find a
> species that occurs throughout the huge diversity of habitats statewide
> while somehow being restricted from bordering states. If state borders were
> created based on changes in habitat, then such a feat would be far easier.
> As is, it seems to me that any species that occurs statewide will also
> occur in many other states.
> That said, I'd be all for a species that is uniquely west coast, yet not
> so habitat restricted as to only be visible on the coast itself.
> I'd hypothetically be all for Hermit Warblers! Throw my vote in this
> hypothetical decision.
> Cheers,
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Wayne Hoffman <whoffman...> wrote:
> Good questions.
> I doubt that they breed regularly anywhere east of Hwy 97.
> If we are considering Meadowlark replacements as State Bird, I would
> suggest a different species that has not yet been brought up, but has some
> things in its favor.
> 1. It does breed in Oregon, but not so extensively as Hermit Warbler.
> 2. Some also winter in the state.
> 3. It probably is regular in every Oregon county, at least in migration.
> 4. It is not the State Bird of any other state.
> 5. It is beautiful and considered a real treat by nearly everyone who
> sees it.
> 6. It's range is larger than that of Hermit Warbler, but is still pretty
> much a west coast/Rocky Mountain specialty.
> This is one of the Hermit Warbler's closest relatives: Townsend's Warbler.
> Wayne
> On 4/20/2017 7:15:56 AM, <5hats...> <5hats...> wrote:
> In just how many counties east of the Cascades is Hermit Warbler a
> breeding species? In just how many of them has it even been recorded?
> Darrel
> --
> Tyler Hallman M.S.
> Ph.D. Student
> Department of Fisheries and Wildlife
> Oregon State University Corvallis
> "You miss one hundred percent of the shots you never take."
> -Wayne Gretzky
> "We're becoming paleontologists describing things that are already
> extinct."
> -Luis Coloma regarding herpetologists

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