Date: 3/18/17 6:44 pm
From: George Neavoll <gneavoll...>
Subject: [obol] Fwd: Dipper question
This was on Upper Nestucca CBC of Dec. 14, 2015.

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> From: George Neavoll <gneavoll...>
> Subject: Fwd: [obol] Dipper question
> Date: March 18, 2017 6:40:04 PM PDT
> To: obol <obol...>
> I remember the incident well. From my notes: A highlight of sightings on Bible Creek Ranch is "American Dipper, swimming like a duck in woodland pond, later flying to pond's outlet and diving, Dipper-like, into rushing water."
> George Neavoll
> S.W. Portland
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>> From: Linda Fink <linda...>
>> Subject: [obol] Re: Dipper question
>> Date: March 18, 2017 6:21:19 PM PDT
>> To: Harry Fuller <atowhee...>
>> Reply-To: <linda...>
>> Interesting, Harry! And it sparked a memory that on one of our Upper Nestucca counts, one group saw a Dipper swim across a lake (pond? details escape me...)
>> On 3/18/2017 1:58 PM, Harry Fuller wrote:
>>> I don't have enough sighting info on Baker Creek Dippers to aver an
>>> opinion except they don't seem to come as far downstream as Grenfell
>>> Park and they become hard to find when the creek is high and muddy and
>>> so must find higher or smaller side streams...I do know that on Ashland
>>> Creek they move upstream during floods and are known to fish the edge of
>>> swimming reservoir (minimal current) in upper Lithia Park...along the
>>> Rogue River they hunt the edges in most season as that river is often
>>> too deep to have exposed rocks. In the Cascades they will hunt lake
>>> edges as well as streams but don't seem to wander too far from their
>>> usual territories...and for romantics I can only recommend John Muir's
>>> essay on the water ouzel
>>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Linda Fink <linda...>
>>> <mailto:<linda...>> wrote:
>>> It may be different on different waterways but on the 6 miles of
>>> Agency Creek (Yamhill county) that I have surveyed since 2011, the
>>> Dippers (7 pairs in that 6 mile stretch) are usually somewhere in
>>> the vicinity of their territories on that stream. When the water is
>>> high and muddy, I sometimes find one across the road in a swampy
>>> ditch. Even when I can't find them during high water times, as soon
>>> as the water goes down a bit (which it does quickly on this
>>> particular stream), they are back where they belong.
>>> On our Nestucca CBC, Don Albright was surprised to find them, one
>>> high-water year, in their usual bridge areas on the turbulent
>>> Nestucca River. This year I think our west-side surveyor find one in
>>> a ditch.
>>> I don't know where the Dipper I saw feeding on a gravel bar in the
>>> middle of the North Santiam River by Lyons goes when the water is as
>>> high as it is now. But my guess is it moves to a smaller stream that
>>> flows in somewhere nearby. But that's just a guess.
>>> Perhaps the Ashland Dipper surveyors have more definitive information?
>>> Linda, near Grand Ronde Agency, SW Yamhill County
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