Date: 3/18/17 6:40 pm
From: George Neavoll <gneavoll...>
Subject: [obol] Fwd: Dipper question
I remember the incident well. From my notes: A highlight of sightings on Bible Creek Ranch is "American Dipper, swimming like a duck in woodland pond, later flying to pond's outlet and diving, Dipper-like, into rushing water."

George Neavoll
S.W. Portland

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> From: Linda Fink <linda...>
> Subject: [obol] Re: Dipper question
> Date: March 18, 2017 6:21:19 PM PDT
> To: Harry Fuller <atowhee...>
> Reply-To: <linda...>
> Interesting, Harry! And it sparked a memory that on one of our Upper Nestucca counts, one group saw a Dipper swim across a lake (pond? details escape me...)
> On 3/18/2017 1:58 PM, Harry Fuller wrote:
>> I don't have enough sighting info on Baker Creek Dippers to aver an
>> opinion except they don't seem to come as far downstream as Grenfell
>> Park and they become hard to find when the creek is high and muddy and
>> so must find higher or smaller side streams...I do know that on Ashland
>> Creek they move upstream during floods and are known to fish the edge of
>> swimming reservoir (minimal current) in upper Lithia Park...along the
>> Rogue River they hunt the edges in most season as that river is often
>> too deep to have exposed rocks. In the Cascades they will hunt lake
>> edges as well as streams but don't seem to wander too far from their
>> usual territories...and for romantics I can only recommend John Muir's
>> essay on the water ouzel
>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Linda Fink <linda...>
>> <mailto:<linda...>> wrote:
>> It may be different on different waterways but on the 6 miles of
>> Agency Creek (Yamhill county) that I have surveyed since 2011, the
>> Dippers (7 pairs in that 6 mile stretch) are usually somewhere in
>> the vicinity of their territories on that stream. When the water is
>> high and muddy, I sometimes find one across the road in a swampy
>> ditch. Even when I can't find them during high water times, as soon
>> as the water goes down a bit (which it does quickly on this
>> particular stream), they are back where they belong.
>> On our Nestucca CBC, Don Albright was surprised to find them, one
>> high-water year, in their usual bridge areas on the turbulent
>> Nestucca River. This year I think our west-side surveyor find one in
>> a ditch.
>> I don't know where the Dipper I saw feeding on a gravel bar in the
>> middle of the North Santiam River by Lyons goes when the water is as
>> high as it is now. But my guess is it moves to a smaller stream that
>> flows in somewhere nearby. But that's just a guess.
>> Perhaps the Ashland Dipper surveyors have more definitive information?
>> Linda, near Grand Ronde Agency, SW Yamhill County
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