Date: 3/13/17 5:00 pm
From: Tim Rodenkirk <timrodenkirk...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Allen's Hummers in OR
Yep there are and hybrids also- another tricky area as Anna's, Rufous and
Allen's all breed there as far as I can tell. Coquille has all three also.


On Monday, March 13, 2017, Alan Contreras <acontrer56...> wrote:

> Am I correct that there are a few Allen’s in the Powers-Broadbent area? I
> seem to recall that they occurred in the western part of the s. Coquille
> Valley.
> Alan Contreras
> Eugene, Oregon
> <acontrer56...>
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','<acontrer56...>');>
> On Mar 13, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Tim Rodenkirk <timrodenkirk...>
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','<timrodenkirk...>');>> wrote:
> Oh- Rufous is a common breeder in the Coos Bay area, we have a couple
> pairs nesting near our house every year and coming to our feeders.
> Tim
> On Monday, March 13, 2017, Tim Rodenkirk <timrodenkirk...>
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','<timrodenkirk...>');>> wrote:
>> I was checking eBird and noticed a few Allen's sightings in Coos Bay
>> lately, probably because of my recent postings of the bird at my casa (a
>> real rarity, my first verified one meaning one that stayed around and
>> displayed). Allen's nest north as far as about New River on a regular
>> basis, further north of that they are a rarity although they are often
>> reported from Bandon which I think is hybrid country. Hybrids are fairly
>> common at New River and north to Bandon and sometimes to Coos Bay. I am
>> speaking males here- good luck on female ID unless you can study tail
>> feathers. So when looking for Allen's you need to find a bird with a pretty
>> green back; most green-backed males I see have less than 50% green and are
>> likely hybrids (although a small percent could be Rufous). I suspect most
>> are hybrids though because when I see them display they usually do an
>> Allen's type pendulum before their J. And yes if you do find a very
>> green-backed individual make sure you also get to see a display to make
>> sure on ID. Of course one could go down to Gold Beach or Brookings but be
>> wary for migrant Rufous. The short of it is that if you get a quick look at
>> a Selasphorus hummer on the south coast you should put it as Rufous/Allen's
>> on eBird. Arch McCallum recorded hybrid wing sounds at New River and around
>> Langlois. Full extent of the hybrid zone south is an unknown. Arch recorded
>> good Allen's in Brookings though. Not sure what is happening north of
>> there? Gold Beach would be a good place to look for Allen's though I
>> suspect.
>> Also if you want to find Allens from NOW until mid-May is best time,
>> while males are still displaying. By late May and June the males are oughta
>> here and the females and young are on the move so all Selasphorus after
>> about 1 June should be Rufous/Allen's sp. (unless you happen to find an
>> obvious Allen's lingering of course). Just because you are in Brookings in
>> June doesn't mean that a female Selasphorus is an Allen's. Every year I get
>> calls from visiting birders in June asking me for good spots to look for
>> Allen's- too late I say!
>> I base all this info from spending 15 years doing point counts at New
>> River and viewing literal a thousand or more male Selasphorus. Oh, if you
>> find their perch viewing adult males can be easier with a spotting scope,
>> it just takes time to get good looks...
>> Out of range green-backed males Selasphorus in Western OR could be Rufous
>> too- once again, look for a display to be more sure.
>> Happy hummingbirding!
>> Tim R
>> Coos Bay

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