Date: 2/21/17 10:02 am
From: Judy & Don <9waterfall9...>
Subject: Re: Flycatcher
I agree with Herschel too.
J

On Feb 21, 2017, at 10:00 AM, swamp_fox <swamp_fox...> wrote:

> I agree with Herschel.
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> When I read Phillip Hyattís post, I took it as tongue-in-cheek and not at all condescending or insulting. Phillipís post didnít even come close to one made last November by a ďmaster gardener, professional birderĒ that made a big to do about getting paid to bird, who has an Audubon bird friendly yard and who flat out insulted one of the best all around naturalists in the state that happened to share a different opinion about a proposed master birder program. In contrast to Phillipís post, that one made my blood boil to the point I questioned the list moderator as to how this personís posting privileges could not at least be temporarily-if not permanently-suspended.
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> It is important to report bird sightings-even those with uncertain IDs-to ARBirds, to the AAS, etc. It should also be understood the more unusual reports will be scrutinized by the ABRC among others but this isnít meant to denigrate the observer or imply their ID was incorrect though perhaps it might initially appear that way to some. It is meant to insure that bogus records donít find their way into the AAS database. Flycatchers, other than Eastern Phoebes and the occasional Sayís Phoebe, Vermilion Flycatcher, Tyrannus species? kingbird, or Myiarchus species? flycatcher, etc. arenít to be expected in Arkansas during the winter. Even with no more information than she could provide, Teresaís post to ARBird was appropriate and I would encourage her to keep submitting reports and ignore, real or imagined, negative posts made in response. Heck, Iíve had more than just a few reports questioned over the years (including some no less with photographs); yet, I still make them because, in the whole scheme of things, they belong in some fashion in the official record. Even if challenged, all observers do get a chance to prove stated ID. That was something taught to me decades ago by Doug James and the improvement to my birding skills because of it remains inestimable. I am forever grateful to him for that.
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> Thank you Kim for hopefully allowing me this extremely rare, perhaps marginally relevant post. If the rain will just stop, Iíll go birding and maybe find some actual birds good enough to post about. Maybe they will be some Sandhill Cranes that surely will be departing northwestward soon. That would make me smile.
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> Charles Mills
> A non-professional but a pretty darn good birder/photographer
> Texarkana TX 75503
>
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>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 7:42 AM, Herschel Raney <herschel.raney...> wrote:
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>> The only experts I know are Nichols, Nichols and Mills. Maybe I am missing somebody. I donít know. I apologize if so. If I call myself an expert than please feel free to mock or slap me as appropriate.
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>> There are no Empid experts. I think they all killed themselves.
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>> This bird is interesting most likely for arrival time since Teresa seems to know a Phoebe. In this warm year things are going to start shifting early and setting records. An Acadian or Alder at this date I think would be a record anywhere in the state. (I did not check.) Alders have a long way to go. And seeing bugs flying early everywhere they went they might just say ďAlaska here I come.Ē They are notoriously quiet on the way north.
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>> I have seen bugs all week. Come on flycatchers is all I can say. And if Teresa is in the woods every day here then let her type what she wants to. She is living better than I am.
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>> Herschel Raney
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>> Conway AR
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