Date: 2/8/17 11:00 am
From: Marcus Simpson (via carolinabirds Mailing List) <carolinabirds...>
Subject: Re: Saw-whet Owl taping
As I recall, this particular reg is part of the Code of Federal Regulations
and limited just to NPS properties. Somewhere I have archived a copy of the
document and will try to dig it out for the group.
Mark Simpson, Jr.
Hendersonville, NC

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 1:45 PM, "Shultz, Steven" <carolinabirds...>
wrote:

> I’m not sure that the taping question has approached the level of a dead
> horse, but it’s certainly been beaten rather frequently. It’s wrapped up
> fairly neatly here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nationalparkstraveler.com_&d=DwIFaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=ymRCw6Q-sBitug_rdeO1Tokz-I_SX2LQN2_Ocvlal9U&m=aFWCU6tdd7ofxipsqPkHv2fBXm2kei4nFv1dXwVCCd0&s=uMiVQmKYwLZRgNluyhW0O_zvc3VYRO0AUwomDey-B2o&e=
> 2012/07/birding-national-parks-attracting-birds-recorded-bird-calls10313
>
>
>
> And really, whether or not it’s legal, illegal, or super-uncouth, in my
> humble opinion, really does not matter (don’t freak out yet, read on).
>
>
>
> The speed limit on the road into Bodie Lighthouse is something like 15 mph
> (maybe it’s 20, but whatever, you’ll see the point). Driving faster than
> that is illegal. How many folks maintain a full 15 mph the entire way?
> How many folks have never (ever) exceeded 55 mph on HWY 12? So let’s start
> from the perspective that 98% of birders already did something illegal.
>
>
>
> The question might be better phrased, is it WISE to tape. If the bird was
> really 10 feet on the other side of the NPS boundary would it really change
> the dynamic?
>
>
>
> We should not need a NPS regulation to help our moral compass determine if
> it is wise to announce to an unlimited population that a single, very
> easily accessible bird, responds to a tape. So my concern is not so much
> about whether or not they taped the bird, my concern would be posting to a
> public site that the bird is present and responsive to a tape. Probably
> not the best choice, but certainly possible that the observers did not know
> the impacts of what they were doing, and hey, they were from a neighboring
> state so we can look down on them condescendingly ;-)
>
>
> I kind of see this more as an unintended consequence of eBird than a
> taping issue. eBird allows folks to see that a Saw-what Owl was seen at
> this specific spot on these specific dates, which makes it easy for folks
> to chase that particular owl. For better or worse, every time we eBird a
> rare bird, we are inviting others to join the fun and go see it.
>
>
>
> I guess I’ll end with a public service announcement to please consider
> being somewhat circumspect in publicly reporting the locations of roosting
> owls, nesting raptors, etc. Sadly there are some crazy folks out there and
> once information is made public, we cannot control who gets it and how they
> use it. The news today that a Bald Eagle was found shot in the head by a
> pellet (Chatham County, NC) should remind folks that, for example, by
> announcing the location of that nest, it may end up being fatal to the
> occupants. Sadly.
>
>
>
> *Steve Shultz*
>
> *From:* <carolinabirds-request...> [mailto:carolinabirds-request@
> duke.edu] *On Behalf Of *"<megascops.2014...>"
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 08, 2017 11:22 AM
> *To:* Kent Fiala
> *Subject:* Re: Saw-whet Owl taping
>
>
>
> Thanks for posting this to the list. Will look forward to any definitive
> replies on this subject
>
>
>
> I wasn't able to find a definitive park service statement, but did find
> this, about the effects of noise in national parks, and feel we probably
> don't give enough thought to how our sounds affect wildlife's ability to
> thrive.
>
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nps.gov_subjects_sound_effects.htm&d=DwIFaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=ymRCw6Q-sBitug_rdeO1Tokz-I_SX2LQN2_Ocvlal9U&m=aFWCU6tdd7ofxipsqPkHv2fBXm2kei4nFv1dXwVCCd0&s=3ESPlJnDi1MaDdRKgqTj8gcOcl2qEeOkEoNDXHyXvVc&e=
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nps.gov_subjects_sound_effects.htm&d=DwMDaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=ymRCw6Q-sBitug_rdeO1Tokz-I_SX2LQN2_Ocvlal9U&m=MYClVmemIPSnzCBgfDoAigKlySTPDToGpxGKU3sLVn8&s=w34RzKKa96kB2iJSyYWER0FpTc2WGsRfvVYL7QQ78%20bg&e=>
>
>
>
> Mary K
>
>
>
> ------ Original message------
>
> *From: *Kent Fiala
>
> *Date: *Wed, Feb 8, 2017 8:59 AM
>
> *To: *carolinabirds;
>
> *Cc: *
>
> *Subject:*Saw-whet Owl taping
>
>
>
> Recently I've noticed some eBird checklists that comment on the Saw-whet
> Owls at Bodie Island Lighthouse (in the Cape Hatteras National Seashore)
> responding to playback. Does the National Park Service still prohibit use
> of playback on NPS properties?
>
> Kent Fiala
>
>

 
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