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12/5/25 12:19 pm berry50 via groups.io <berry50...> [venturacobirding] Conejo Valley Audubon Bird Walk - Saturday, December 6
12/4/25 3:02 pm David Pereksta via groups.io <pereksta...> Re: [venturacobirding] Blue-winged Warbler, Arundell Barranca
12/4/25 10:18 am Dessi Sieburth via groups.io <Dessisieburth...> [venturacobirding] Blue-winged Warbler, Arundell Barranca
11/17/25 2:46 pm David Pereksta via groups.io <pereksta...> Re: [venturacobirding] Allen's Hummingbird Question for Experts
11/17/25 11:58 am Brad Sillasen via groups.io <bradstewartsillasen...> [venturacobirding] Allen's Hummingbird Question for Experts
 
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Date: 12/5/25 12:19 pm
From: berry50 via groups.io <berry50...>
Subject: [venturacobirding] Conejo Valley Audubon Bird Walk - Saturday, December 6

Conejo Community Park & Botanical Gardens
December 6 @ 8:00 am (SATURDAY)
All are welcome. 
Meet in the botanical gardens parking area off Gainsborough Road, at the end of Jeaninine Drive. (This parking lot is near the Kids Adventure Garden and a ball field.)There are toilets there and we’ll begin our walk promptly at 8am. The botanical gardens are adjacent to the large open Community Park which offers several opportunities for a variety of birds this time of year. There may be wintering warblers. We’ll look for pipits on the grass; bluebirds in the trees; sparrows, nuthatches and kinglets in the gardens, and hawks in the sky.
This will be a beginner-friendly walk designed to help those new to the hobby learn how to listen, look and identify various types of birds in our area.The walk leader is David Persons. There is no need to register. If you have questions David is available at 805-469-6806


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Date: 12/4/25 3:02 pm
From: David Pereksta via groups.io <pereksta...>
Subject: Re: [venturacobirding] Blue-winged Warbler, Arundell Barranca
Hi all
This bird is a great find. A few of us looked later this morning and did not see it. We were approached by multiple people from the school and while they were ultimately ok with us looking around near the barranca (we were being good ambassadors), they are nervous about larger groups of people. That being said, please consider the following recommendations from me if you plan to look for this bird...
1. Please do not park in their parking lot. There is ample parking on the street. One birder car in their lot got the school's attention.2. Realizing this is a school, please stay away from the school buildings, students, faculty, and parents. This site is probably best visited on a weekend or outside of school hours.3. It is easy to look into the barranca from the fenced boundary with their lot so staying consolidated there is the best approach.
Given the sensitivity of the site and the fact that it is private property, please be respectful.
Thanks
Dave PerekstaVentura



On Thursday, December 4, 2025 at 10:18:44 AM PST, Dessi Sieburth via groups.io <dessisieburth...> wrote:

Logan Kahle and I just had a Blue-winged Warbler in Arundell Barranca. We viewed it from the Ventura Montessori School parking lot, at (34.2780380, -119.2231906). It was foraging in eucs and oaks. Photos will be added to eBird later. 
Good birding,Dessi





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Date: 12/4/25 10:18 am
From: Dessi Sieburth via groups.io <Dessisieburth...>
Subject: [venturacobirding] Blue-winged Warbler, Arundell Barranca
Logan Kahle and I just had a Blue-winged Warbler in Arundell Barranca. We
viewed it from the Ventura Montessori School parking lot, at (34.2780380,
-119.2231906). It was foraging in eucs and oaks. Photos will be added to
eBird later.

Good birding,
Dessi


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Date: 11/17/25 2:46 pm
From: David Pereksta via groups.io <pereksta...>
Subject: Re: [venturacobirding] Allen's Hummingbird Question for Experts
Hi Brad
I have been thinking about this same question as I had two birds occasionally visiting my yard last winter that were Selasphorus hummingbirds with no rufous on the back, rump, and uppertail coverts; and a lack of rufous on the undersides too. There was a small patch of rufous on the sides of the uppertails and some paler buffy coloring on the undersides, but that was it. My understanding is that Allen's should have some degree of rufous in the areas you described although as I further researched this, apparently Rufous Hummingbirds can have a lack of rufous coloring in those areas as juveniles (Allen's less likely to lack rufous completely). However, Rufous Hummingbirds do not winter locally so we are unlikely to see them outside their migration windows. See the article at the following link for further insights on these difficult to identify fall Selasphorus hummingbirds.
Fall Befuddlers: Broad-tailed, Rufous/Allen’s, and Calliope – Sheri L. Williamson

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After taking a month or more to get decent looks and photos last winter, the consensus from a number of "experts" was that my birds were Broad-tailed Hummingbirds. One of them appears to have returned last week and I am continuing to try to document it. My birds have generated a lot of head-scratching and highlights just how hard it is to identify female and immature hummingbirds.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Dave PerekstaVentura



On Monday, November 17, 2025 at 11:58:46 AM PST, Brad Sillasen via groups.io <bradstewartsillasen...> wrote:

Do female/imm. male Allen's ever have 100% green back, rump, and upper tail coverts? Brad SillasenLa Vida en la Avenida  


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Date: 11/17/25 11:58 am
From: Brad Sillasen via groups.io <bradstewartsillasen...>
Subject: [venturacobirding] Allen's Hummingbird Question for Experts
Do female/imm. male Allen's ever have 100% green back, rump, and upper tail coverts?

Brad Sillasen
La Vida en la Avenida


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