Date: 10/21/26 12:18 pm
From: William Isaacs via groups.io <waisaacs...>
Subject: [EBB-Sightings] ID help from audio
Hi East Bay Bird fans,

Just joined this group, I am hoping for help from someone to make an ID
from some audio and notes.

I understand I should not attach anything here, so here's a link to the
unprocessed audio file

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1urQElJZrQmF2A8pWEXwOAqf-ynJKkqRw/view?usp=drivesdk

Apologies if I've misunderstood any of the group protocols, please let me
know if so.

Thanks,
Bill Isaacs
El Cerrito


Sat Oct 17 2026 8:45pm

Warm evening with the windows open, sitting in the house. My wife alerted
me to a sound outside and we went to our deck facing south. The house is
adjacent to the Hillside Natural space behind Ganges Ave in El Cerrito. I
opened Merlin and started recording. She saw the silhouette outline of two
large birds heading in the direction of San Francisco so SSW. They were
gliding not much higher than roof height, so below the adjacent hillside
tree levels. It was dark already so no features visible, but size at least
in the vulture or large owl or large waterbird category. We suspected some
migratory flyover, but we also think they must have perched nearby, because
we heard them for a solid minute on the deck plus the time it took to get
out there. (Don't know but it feels like a plain fly by would have gone
faster.) Merlin did not make any identification suggestions.

I got the latest BirdNet Live app, which will run the ID algorithms on
audio files as well as listening live. It also didn't make a suggestion
with the default settings. I completely removed the location filter, and it
made one suggestion: a 59% match to a Black Kite. I went through the audio
clips within Merlin for that species and it wasn't obvious to me that any
was a good comparison to what we heard (plus they were all from Africa, but
I recognize this may be a stray which explains why I didn't get an ID from
Merlin). I reduced the probability filter to the minimum, but BirdNet Live
didn't make any other suggestions. It's my first time using this app, so I
don't know if I missed turning any knobs that would have helped.

I'm a retired computer physicist, and have programmed my share of signal
processing software, so I know very well how the audio ID works, its
limitations, etc. Whenever I get a surprise match I try to find comparison
audio to learn from. But here is a great case for human expertise, so I'm
happy to consult a real person for this!

I didn't know how to usefully navigate eBird to see if anyone reported
something that aligns with the above. I did ask one of the AIs if there
were any rare bird reports on eBird or Facebook near our area from that
timeframe, and it couldn't find any.

We're excited to learn what we heard, even if it somehow turns out to be
something common. I haven't tried cleaning up the audio and running it
again. Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions.

Thanks,

Bill


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