Date: 10/15/26 9:50 am
From: Phil Swanson via groups.io <pswanson19...>
Subject: Re: [NEBirds] normal juvenile downy?
To continue on this thread, a juvenile Hairy WP can also rarely have a yellow crown instead of a red crown. This is a photo I took in my yard in late June 2016.
Phil Swanson Papillion
On Thursday, October 15, 2026 at 11:38:16 AM CDT, flyingcarlini via groups.io <flyingcarlini...> wrote:

Great photo, thanks for pointing that out.  Sibley has inset illustrations showing that red extension on both Downy and Hairy juvs.  Wild that evolution produced juvs more brightly colored than their parents - gotta wonder how that came about.
-Shari Schwartz, Lincoln
On Wednesday, October 14, 2026 at 07:14:42 PM CDT, Gordon Warrick via groups.io <prubinus...> wrote:

In this photo taken in spring of 2025, I just now noticed that the red on the male juvy extends much further towards the front than depicted in the Peterson Field Guide.  Is this a characteristic of a juvenile male, so that the red will recede further back and narrow in adult plumage?





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