Date: 9/30/26 5:27 pm
From: richard s. cimino via groups.io <rscimino...>
Subject: [northbaybirds] Evening Grosbeaks at Community Center Calistoga CA
Al,

Interesting today in Calistoga CA. we had a dozen Evening Grosbeaks which Merlin ID as Cedar Waxwings.

Could the Marlin not recognize the Type 1 (Pacific Northwest BC/Alberta) dialect ?

So, it defaulted to Cader Waxwings?

Marlin was certainly confused.

Rich Cimino

Yellowbilledtours.com



From: <peninsula-birding...> <peninsula-birding...> On Behalf Of Alvaro Jaramillo via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2026 5:19 AM
To: <kforward...>; 'Peninsula Birding' <peninsula-birding...>
Subject: Re: [pen-bird] Evening Grosbeaks at Purisima Creek Redwoods OSP 9/29



Kent



Looking at the spectrograms, it looks like this is a type 1 Evening Grosbeak. You could change the ID to that specifically. This is a population from the Pacific Northwest and BC/Alberta. Not the type you have in the Cascades/Sierra. This is interesting as it suggests that the “montane invasion” birds may be coming from various different places, so what is affecting Evening Grosbeaks may not be the same thing as what is influencing Pinyon Jays.



Find out more here:

https://ebird.org/news/evening-grosbeak-call-types-of-north-america



map of types here:

https://blog.aba.org/2012/12/five-species-of-evening-grosbeakslets-find-out-together.html



Alvaro Jaramillo

<mailto:<alvaro...> <alvaro...>

<http://www.alvarosadventures.com> www.alvarosadventures.com



From: <peninsula-birding...> <mailto:<peninsula-birding...> <peninsula-birding...> <mailto:<peninsula-birding...> > On Behalf Of Kent Forward via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2026 11:22 PM
To: Peninsula Birding <peninsula-birding...> <mailto:<peninsula-birding...> >
Subject: [pen-bird] Evening Grosbeaks at Purisima Creek Redwoods OSP 9/29



Today while birding the riparian area of lower Purisima I heard Evening Grosbeaks! I wasn't able to obtain a visual. I have been studying the vocalizations of some of the rarer birds partaking in the current large irruption of montane birds to our area so when I heard these vocalizations it reminded me of Evening Grosbeak, so I got Merlin going and it concurred, and also I got feedback from several skilled ear-birders in the affirmative for Evening Grosbeak! This was in the lower parking lot at 37.437585, -122.370610



https://ebird.org/checklist/S397598170



Happy migration and montane irruption birding!

Kent Forward

El Granada





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