Date: 9/21/26 2:38 pm
From: Lance Benner via groups.io <lbenner...>
Subject: [LACoBirds] Evening grosbeaks and red crossbills
All, Following up on the message from Dan Cooper about evening grosbeak
sounds, if you find any grosbeaks or red crossbills during the
irruption that is developing, PLEASE try to get recordings! You
probably don't need fancy equipment and your cell phone probably has
enough sensitivity. Any one of the sound recording apps on modern
phones will probably work, including Merlin, but I prefer Song Meter
Touch and Voice Record Pro (both are free) because they are more
sensitive than Merlin and will pick up fainter sounds. There are five
known evening grosbeak flight call types and two have been recorded in
southern California: types 1 and 2. Type 2s breed in the Sierra but
most of the grosbeaks documented in this part of the state have been
type 1s. There are 12 red crossbill flight call types currently
known in North America, and of these, types 2, 3, and 4 have been
documented in Los Angeles County. The vast majority have been type
2s, which are adapted for ponderosa and Jeffrey pines, and to date
these are the only ones found in the mountains. Types 3 and 4 are
much, much less common. The best way to tell the types apart is with
audio spectrograms generated from recordings and videos. If you get
find red crossbills and evening grosbeak and get recordings, please
upload them to your eBird lists. This will really help us understand
this irruption better. Finally, be on the watch for breeding by red
crossbills. They can breed at any time of the year if the cone crop
is good. If so, then they will be singing in addition to calling.
Regards, Lance Lance BennerPasadena P.S. Please note that Cassin's
finches and Lewis's woodpeckers are also starting to turn up so be on
the alert for them. _._,_._,_

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