Date: 8/31/26 8:51 pm
From: Marty Freeland via groups.io <martinf3...>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] Swinhoe
Swinhoe’s White-eye is on the official California list; it was accepted as established by the CBRC earlier this year and I believe the ABA-CLC will follow the CBRC in its next update. This only applies to the established SoCal population and not to individual independent releases/escapes.

Dispersants from the SoCal population have turned up quite far south in Baja, but most or all Bay Area records very likely relate to independent escapes, as a number (including some of the group that bred in downtown SF) have aviculturists' leg bands.

Marty Freeland
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From: <SFBirds...> <SFBirds...> on behalf of Alvaro Jaramillo via groups.io <chucao...>
Sent: Monday, 31 August 2026 17:33:24
To: <darmstrong99...> <darmstrong99...>; 'SF Birds' <sfbirds...>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] Swinhoe


David



I am not in the listing game, but one thing you said confused me. If it is on the official California list, does that not make it countable no matter where in California it is seen?



Regards

Alvaro



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From: <SFBirds...> <SFBirds...> On Behalf Of David Armstrong via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2026 8:23 PM
To: SF Birds <sfbirds...>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] Swinhoe



Hi Roberta and SF Birders



Presumably David is referring to Swinhoe's White-eye<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ebird.org/species/swiwhe1__;!!G92We9drHetJ8EofZw!bHXxqF3ziaoD-vuTi-wUtw3CF6setLpCMUiRLSVwZTrrOwX0OoSXFEzsUotjkvtcQvBBzmg_qHpyGSoYDN2cUV_L672LDb2icg$>, which has established a large population in Southern California, and has been steadily working its way up the coast with sightings by Dom and others in SF, as well as in East Bay locations. It's not considered countable here yet but it is on the official California list.



The "Calliope Tree" refers to an eBird hotspot <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ebird.org/hotspot/L2021839__;!!G92We9drHetJ8EofZw!bHXxqF3ziaoD-vuTi-wUtw3CF6setLpCMUiRLSVwZTrrOwX0OoSXFEzsUotjkvtcQvBBzmg_qHpyGSoYDN2cUV_L672QsXiceg$> on Lincoln Golf Course and in particular to a flowering eucalyptus that hosted a Calliope Hummingbird a couple of falls back (and is a magnet for birds in general). You can access this area by parking along Clement Street near the corner of 40th Ave.



Hope this helps

David Armstrong





On Monday, August 31, 2026 at 05:15:12 PM PDT, Roberta Guise <roberta...><mailto:<roberta...>> wrote:





This assumes a lot of institutional knowledge and accrued arcana. Alas, some of us are not quite there yet. And perhaps I missed a previous email about this..



What’s Swinhoe?



Where’s the Calliope tree?



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From: <SFBirds...><mailto:<SFBirds...> <SFBirds...><mailto:<SFBirds...>> on behalf of David Webster via groups.io <davisigno...><mailto:<davisigno...>>
Date: Monday, August 31, 2026 at 16:34
To: SF Birds <SFBirds...><mailto:<SFBirds...>>
Subject: [SFBirds] Swinhoe

In the Calliope tree - not banded




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