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Date: 5/1/26 9:34 am From: Pat OHoro <psub...> Subject: Re: [JERSEYBI] Expert ears needed...
Hi Joseph, Thanks for comparing! I do think Marc is on to something. Regards, Pat On 2026-04-30 22:26, Joseph wrote: > Hey Pat, > > I took a listen to Bell's Vireo after reading this and I think it's > very > similar as well. I wouldn't have even considered it an option! > > Joseph Salmieri Jr. > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 9:27 PM Pat OHoro <psub...> wrote: > >> Hi Marc, >> >> I just listened to Bell's Vireo, and I think you may have nailed it. >> It sounds the same to me. >> There are about 200 sightings of Bell's in NJ, so uncommon but not >> rare. >> >> I'm not surprised by a frequency shift. >> I was looking at a sonogram of some White-throated Sparrows I made and >> was surprised by the center frequency point of the different birds. >> >> Bradley's suggestion of RCKI was good especially considering the date >> and location. >> But the Bell's really matched to me. >> The CAWA was another reasonable suggestion, but it turns out the CAWA >> songbird is just too musical to be the recording. >> >> If anyone else wants to compare the Bell's to the recording, I welcome >> it. >> >> Otherwise, I'll make Jeff play judge and jury on eBird. >> >> Marc - I'll remember to ask for the story next time I see you :) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Pat >> >> >> On 2026-04-30 17:45, CHELEMER, MARC J wrote: >> > Pat, >> > >> > Have a listen to various recordings of Bell's Vireo. I happen to have >> > been listening to a real Bell's Vireo just yesterday in Nevada and >> > this sounds very much like one, just a bit higher pitched than normal. >> > But that jumbled unpatterned chattering is SO similar. >> > >> > The behavior matches, too: deep in shrubs, never comes out. Remind >> > me to tell you the story of my first Bell's Vireo, which was in 1972. >> > It's the stuff of Chelemer family legend. >> > >> > Marc Chelemer >> > >> > From: JerseyBirds <JERSEYBI...> On Behalf Of Pat >> > OHoro >> > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2026 11:21 AM >> > To: <JERSEYBI...> >> > Subject: [JERSEYBI] Expert ears needed... >> > >> > Hi All, I recorded a bird song that neither Merlin nor >> > BirdNET-Analyzer recognized. I took off geographic restrictions and >> > get a striped sparrow but I believe this to be incorrect. The sound is >> > clear, it was from a bird/animal in shrubs which >> > >> > Hi All, >> > >> > I recorded a bird song that neither Merlin nor BirdNET-Analyzer >> > >> > recognized. >> > >> > I took off geographic restrictions and get a striped sparrow but I >> > >> > believe this to be incorrect. >> > >> > The sound is clear, it was from a bird/animal in shrubs which never >> > >> > showed itself and went silent when something spooked all of the birds >> > in >> > >> > the area. >> > >> > I pretty sure it is not another type of animal based upon the >> > frequency >> > >> > and cadence. >> > >> > Here is a link: >> > >> > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/356850726__;!!BhdT!mcZRKvUchfJJ23yHpePJFTtz3xnXlhS_e3gHt8wwkvOc52Ge1D2PtYwxj5is2KOqZLRTDrNwOg$ >> > [1] >> > >> > The bird can be heard starting at 2 and 15 seconds. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Pat >> > >> > List Guidelines: >> > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind2107&L=JERSEYBI&P=R685&X=OE8E22FEF3A2B10DFE5__;!!BhdT!mcZRKvUchfJJ23yHpePJFTtz3xnXlhS_e3gHt8wwkvOc52Ge1D2PtYwxj5is2KOqZLRqrfDJng$ >> > [2] >> > >> > List help: <jerseybi-request...> >> > >> > List archives: >> > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=jerseybi__;!!BhdT!mcZRKvUchfJJ23yHpePJFTtz3xnXlhS_e3gHt8wwkvOc52Ge1D2PtYwxj5is2KOqZLRib_NFCA$ >> > [3] >> > >> > NJ Bird Records Committee: >> > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.njbrc.com__;!!BhdT!mcZRKvUchfJJ23yHpePJFTtz3xnXlhS_e3gHt8wwkvOc52Ge1D2PtYwxj5is2KOqZLSUG8vXJQ$ >> > [4] >> > >> > >> > Links: >> > ------ >> > [1] >> > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.inaturalist.org/observations/356850726__;!!BhdT!mcZRKvUchfJJ23yHpePJFTtz3xnXlhS_e3gHt8wwkvOc52Ge1D2PtYwxj5is2KOqZLRTDrNwOg$ >> > [2] >> > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind2107&L=JERSEYBI&P=R685&X=OE8E22FEF3A2B10DFE5__;!!BhdT!mcZRKvUchfJJ23yHpePJFTtz3xnXlhS_e3gHt8wwkvOc52Ge1D2PtYwxj5is2KOqZLRqrfDJng$ >> > [3] >> > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=jerseybi__;!!BhdT!mcZRKvUchfJJ23yHpePJFTtz3xnXlhS_e3gHt8wwkvOc52Ge1D2PtYwxj5is2KOqZLRib_NFCA$ >> > [4] >> > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.njbrc.com__;!!BhdT!mcZRKvUchfJJ23yHpePJFTtz3xnXlhS_e3gHt8wwkvOc52Ge1D2PtYwxj5is2KOqZLSUG8vXJQ$ >> >> List Guidelines: >> https://lists.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind2107&L=JERSEYBI&P=R685&X=OE8E22FEF3A2B10DFE5 >> List help: <jerseybi-request...> >> List archives: https://lists.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=jerseybi >> NJ Bird Records Committee: www.njbrc.com >> > > List Guidelines: > https://lists.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind2107&L=JERSEYBI&P=R685&X=OE8E22FEF3A2B10DFE5 > List help: <jerseybi-request...> > List archives: https://lists.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=jerseybi > NJ Bird Records Committee: www.njbrc.com List Guidelines: https://lists.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind2107&L=JERSEYBI&P=R685&X=OE8E22FEF3A2B10DFE5 List help: <jerseybi-request...> List archives: https://lists.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=jerseybi NJ Bird Records Committee: www.njbrc.com

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