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Date: 4/30/26 7:27 pm From: Joseph <jsalmierijr...> Subject: Re: [JERSEYBI] Expert ears needed... |
Hey Pat,
I took a listen to Bell's Vireo after reading this and I think it's very
similar as well. I wouldn't have even considered it an option!
Joseph Salmieri Jr.
On Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 9:27 PM Pat OHoro <psub...> wrote:
> Hi Marc,
>
> I just listened to Bell's Vireo, and I think you may have nailed it.
> It sounds the same to me.
> There are about 200 sightings of Bell's in NJ, so uncommon but not rare.
>
> I'm not surprised by a frequency shift.
> I was looking at a sonogram of some White-throated Sparrows I made and
> was surprised by the center frequency point of the different birds.
>
> Bradley's suggestion of RCKI was good especially considering the date
> and location.
> But the Bell's really matched to me.
> The CAWA was another reasonable suggestion, but it turns out the CAWA
> songbird is just too musical to be the recording.
>
> If anyone else wants to compare the Bell's to the recording, I welcome
> it.
>
> Otherwise, I'll make Jeff play judge and jury on eBird.
>
> Marc - I'll remember to ask for the story next time I see you :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pat
>
>
> On 2026-04-30 17:45, CHELEMER, MARC J wrote:
> > Pat,
> >
> > Have a listen to various recordings of Bell's Vireo. I happen to have
> > been listening to a real Bell's Vireo just yesterday in Nevada and
> > this sounds very much like one, just a bit higher pitched than normal.
> > But that jumbled unpatterned chattering is SO similar.
> >
> > The behavior matches, too: deep in shrubs, never comes out. Remind
> > me to tell you the story of my first Bell's Vireo, which was in 1972.
> > It's the stuff of Chelemer family legend.
> >
> > Marc Chelemer
> >
> > From: JerseyBirds <JERSEYBI...> On Behalf Of Pat
> > OHoro
> > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2026 11:21 AM
> > To: <JERSEYBI...>
> > Subject: [JERSEYBI] Expert ears needed...
> >
> > Hi All, I recorded a bird song that neither Merlin nor
> > BirdNET-Analyzer recognized. I took off geographic restrictions and
> > get a striped sparrow but I believe this to be incorrect. The sound is
> > clear, it was from a bird/animal in shrubs which
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I recorded a bird song that neither Merlin nor BirdNET-Analyzer
> >
> > recognized.
> >
> > I took off geographic restrictions and get a striped sparrow but I
> >
> > believe this to be incorrect.
> >
> > The sound is clear, it was from a bird/animal in shrubs which never
> >
> > showed itself and went silent when something spooked all of the birds
> > in
> >
> > the area.
> >
> > I pretty sure it is not another type of animal based upon the
> > frequency
> >
> > and cadence.
> >
> > Here is a link:
> >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/356850726__;!!BhdT!mcZRKvUchfJJ23yHpePJFTtz3xnXlhS_e3gHt8wwkvOc52Ge1D2PtYwxj5is2KOqZLRTDrNwOg$
> > [1]
> >
> > The bird can be heard starting at 2 and 15 seconds.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Pat
> >
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> >
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> > [4]
> >
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