Date: 1/11/26 6:45 pm From: Kevin Kubach (via carolinabirds Mailing List) <carolinabirds...> Subject: Re: Raleigh CBC results -- December 20, and comments on counting every bird within the count circle
Bird data on Christmas Bird Counts must be tallied by officially involved human observers, in designated field parties, who are not only submitting their bird data but their effort data as well.
Kevin Kubach
Greenville, SC
> On Jan 11, 2026, at 8:49 PM, <badgerboy...> wrote:
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> The data generated by surveys seems to be much more valuable when standard protocols are followed. We have ebird, NC rare bird alert, and many local reporting groups which fill in the gaps of bird occurrence from standard protocol surveys. I agree with Harry that such birds should be left off the official count numbers.
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> One further aspect is that the party routes and stops, and concentrations of birding time, are highly influenced by previous reporting; i.e., many people already know what birds are in the circle and where they are, so they go there. I don't know if there's any way around that, but it makes it tough to compare a count from pre-ebird times to today's counts with any degree of meaning. It also can tend to keep unbirded places still unbirded.
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> None of this should detract from a great Raleigh count--congrats to all the birders involved!
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> Guy (McGrane, Boone NC)
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>> On 1/11/2026 12:19 PM, Harry LeGrand (via carolinabirds Mailing List) wrote:
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