Date: 12/21/25 3:53 pm
From: David Suddjian <dsuddjian...>
Subject: Re: [cobirds] CBC Colorado Christmas wish list
To Brandon's point, it is interesting to consider counts that are
under-supported by participating birders and those whose participation has
declined. The number of birders has grown greatly, but it seems that the
tradition of Christmas count participation has not grown similarly. The CBC
culture feels different in some ways. I think some impact occurred in
connection with the Covid-19 shutdown when many counts took a hiatus, and
substantial growth in birding happened at that same time and in the
following years.

To Diana's idea for consideration, the corners of Colorado all seem
depauperate in coverage. One fantasy circle for me would be focused on the
canyonlands of Baca and far eastern Las Animas counties -- but no birders
live there. Those reservoirs in Park County she mentions -- all great
birding areas -- are completely frozen in the CBC season and one of the
state parks is closed for winter.

David Suddjian
Littleton, CO

On Sun, Dec 21, 2025 at 12:25 PM Brandon <flammowl17...> wrote:

> Since there are over 50+ Christmas Bird Counts in Colorado, and some
> counts don't get 10 observers on their counts, which they suppose to be
> (according to National Audubon, every year), I am not sure about starting
> new Christmas Bird Counts, that don't have a lot of birders, that live in
> the circle (the new count this year, Broomfield, probably have lots of
> people, since it is in northern Colorado). I know several of our local
> counts down here, like Lake Isabel, Spanish Peaks, Rocky Ford, Pueblo, and
> Westcliffe (which we've discontinued since there aren't any birders close
> by), don't get enough of helpers (nowadays, they use to get more, back when
> they started), since there's not a lot of birders in these areas. Please
> help these rural counts that have few people helping usually, and not try
> to start new counts in areas that don't have helpers.
>
> Brandon Percival
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 21, 2025 at 12:15 PM Diana Beatty <otowi33.33...>
> wrote:
>
>> Just for fun discussion:
>>
>> Linked below is a map of Christmas Bird Count circles.
>>
>> Is there anywhere in Colorado you think should have one that doesn't?
>> Volunteer capacity and time are certainly factors, but if those weren't
>> problems, where might we be missing?
>>
>> Near me, I thought maybe a circle centered on or around Eleven Mile State
>> Park could be cool. Maybe it would also have Antero and Spinney within it.
>>
>>
>> Diana Beatty
>> El Paso County
>>
>>
>> https://gis.audubon.org/christmasbirdcount/?_gl=1*161wzvj*_gcl_au*MTQzMzU4MzYxMy4xNzY2MzQzODc4*_ga*MjE0MzA1MzQxMy4xNzY2MzQzODc4*_ga_X2XNL2MWTT*czE3NjYzNDM4NzckbzEkZzEkdDE3NjYzNDQyNTIkajYwJGwwJGgw
>>
>> ******
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>> said *Gandalf*, “and so do all who live to see such times. But that is
>> not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time
>> that is given us.”
>>
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