Date: 10/10/25 9:58 am From: David Barry via groups.io <wildbarrydb...> Subject: Re: [Mendobirds] Aleutian Cacklers
Great info,
Thanks Doug.
Dave Barry
Santa Rosa
On Fri, Oct 10, 2025 at 9:41 AM Frank Hall via groups.io <fagrhall=
<frontiernet.net...> wrote:
> Hi Lisa,
> As far as I know, a few of each of the multitude of Canada subspecies that
> mostly winter in the Willamette Valley, Oregon turn up on the Humboldt
> and Del Norte Coast. This would include any Cackling, Dusky, (fulva,
> Taverner's. etc.) and more. Virtually all of those which breed from the
> Arctic, and inland to the Yukon and south to Vancouver Island could turn
> up.
>
> Frank
>
> On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 09:10:38 AM PDT, Diane Hichwa via groups.io
> <dhichwa...> wrote:
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>
> Thanks David. Good info---but maybe Cornell Birds of the World could be a
> better source than Wikipedia. Who knows??
>
>
>
> Diane Hichwa
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> Email: <dhichwa...>
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> Telephone: 707-785-1922 (Sea Ranch)
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> 707-483-3130 (cell)
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> More Tail Wagging!!! Less Barking!!
>
> Millie 2007
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> *From: *<Mendobirds...> on behalf of "David Jensen via groups.io"
> <djensen...>
> *Reply-To: *David Jensen <djensen...>
> *Date: *Friday, October 10, 2025 at 8:57 AM
> *To: *"<fagrhall...>" <fagrhall...>, "
> <feather...>" <feather...>
> *Cc: *"<gallo.ja...>" <gallo.ja...>, Jeanne & Rick Jackson <
> <jackson2...>, "<tbray...>" <tbray...>, "<Mendobirds...>"
> <Mendobirds...>
> *Subject: *Re: [Mendobirds] Aleutian Cacklers
> *Resent-From: *David Jensen <djensen...>
> *Resent-Date: *Fri, 10 Oct 2025 08:57:27 -0700
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>
> Two things can be real:
>
> Aleutian cackling geese typically arrive in California in mid-October each
> year. The majority of the population goes right to its primary wintering
> areas in the Central Valley. Since 2002, though, a relatively small
> (1500-5000) number of geese spend fall and winter on the northern coast.
> Around late December, the geese wintering in the Central Valley begin
> moving north, and by mid-February, most of the Aleutian cackling goose
> population is located in northwestern California until they depart for the
> Aleutian Islands in mid-April. As of 2004, Humboldt County began receiving
> the majority of Aleutian cackling geese on the northwestern coast from
> January through April.[6]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleutian_cackling_goose#cite_note-6> >
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>
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> *From:* <Mendobirds...> <Mendobirds...> on behalf of Lisa D.
> Walker, (Feather Forestwalker) via groups.io <feather...>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 10, 2025 8:35 AM
> *To:* <fagrhall...> <fagrhall...>
> *Cc:* <gallo.ja...> <gallo.ja...>; <jackson2...> <
> <jackson2...>; <tbray...> <tbray...>; <Mendobirds...> <
> <Mendobirds...>
> *Subject:* Re: [Mendobirds] Aleutian Cacklers
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> On 2025-10-09 8:51 pm, <fagrhall...> wrote:
> > Lisa,
> >
> > Your guess seems sensible, but I can assure you that most Aleutians
> > decidedly do not spend the winter in California's Central Valley. A
> > few do, especially in the Sacramento - SJ Delta, but many more winter
> > on the Del Norte and Humboldt coasts.
>
> Aleutian?
>
>
> See, the most common answer is that they winter in the western half of
> the US in and near brackish water situations. So, Humboldt is one area,
> as is the Central Valley. We see them here in winter too (on the coast).
>
> Which other subspecies are seen in Humboldt besides the Aleutian?
>
>
> Lisa
>
>
> >
> > Best, Frank
> >
> > On Thursday, October 9, 2025 at 07:07:37 PM PDT, Lisa D. Walker,
> > (Feather Forestwalker) via groups.io <feather...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I have a guess as to why the geese sometimes head north during the
> > fall
> > migration:
> >
> > They nest in the Arctic tundra and in the Aleutians. They head south
> > and
> > over-shoot their destination and turn around. They have to regain
> > their
> > bearings and turn inland at a spot where the Jet Stream might carry
> > them
> > east. Once they see some familiar landmarks, they can drift south into
> >
> > the Central Valley, where they will spend the winter.
> >
> > Maybe?
> >
> > Lisa Walker, Fort Bragg/Cleone
> >
> > PS. What else did you see at Virgin Creek? I've missed it the last
> > couple of days because I've been doing over-due chores at home :)
> >
> > On 2025-10-09 3:19 pm, John Gallo via groups.io wrote:
> >> I saw another one of the northbound flocks at about 9:00 AM at
> > Virgin
> >> Creek today. Love that sound.
> >>
> >> Is there any speculation or science about why heading north, not
> >> south, and for how far?
> >>
> >> Maybe doing a second pass along the North Coast to respectfully
> > invite
> >> locals to join their flock?
> >>
> >> (Giving them time for last minute packing of course.)
> >>
> >> ;-) John
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 9, 2025 at 7:51 AM jackson_us via groups.io [1]
> >> <jackson2...> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Several large flocks were seen and heard off Point Arena heading
> >>> south yesterday afternoon.
> >>>
> >>> Jeanne, Anchor Bay
> >>>
> >>> From: <Mendobirds...> <Mendobirds...> On Behalf Of Tim
> >>> Bray via groups.io [1]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2025 9:39 PM
> >>> To: <mendobirds...>
> >>> Subject: [Mendobirds] Aleutian Cacklers
> >>>
> >>> 8 October 2025 - Multiple flocks of 80-200 Cackling Geese flew over
> >>> the coast this afternoon. Photos show white neck collars indicating
> >>> Aleutians.
> >>>
> >>> The first ones we saw were flying low over the ocean south of Fort
> >>> Bragg heading toward shore; once over land they gained elevation
> > and
> >>> turned north, surprisingly. They were followed by at least two more
> >>> flocks also going north over town. When we got home in Albion
> >>> another flock flew over going south.
> >>>
> >>> Evidently, winter is coming.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Tim
> >>> “I now belong to a higher cult of mortals for I have seen the
> >>> albatross.” Robert Cushman Murphy, 1912
> >>> Mendocino Coast Audubon Society [2]
> >>> Ecology Hour [3]
> >>> Oak & Thorn [4]
> >>> Facebook: Oak and Thorn [5]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Links:
> >> ------
> >> [1] http://groups.io > >> [2] http://mendocinocoastaudubon.org/ > >> [3] https://ecologyhour.wordpress.com/ > >> [4] http://oakandthorn.wordpress.com > >> [5] https://www.facebook.com/oakandthorn > >> [6] https://groups.io/g/Mendobirds/message/9664 > >> [7] https://groups.io/mt/115667065/974701 > >> [8] https://groups.io/g/Mendobirds/post > >> [9] https://groups.io/g/Mendobirds/editsub/974701 > >> [10] https://groups.io/g/Mendobirds/unsub > >
> >
>
> --
> Lisa D Walker, Feather's Fotos
> https://facebook.com/PhotographyByFeather >
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