Date: 10/4/25 12:47 pm From: David P. Muth via groups.io <muthdp...> Subject: Re: [labird] Listing Groups
The challenge is for someone to find a one-day wonder Violet-green Swallow
away from southwest Louisiana so that a certain person will no longer have
run that table.
David P. Muth
On Sat, Oct 4, 2025, 2:39 PM Paul Conover via groups.io <zoiseaux=
<lusfiber.net...> wrote:
> I guess there are a lot of ways to look at it, but all of them are good
> ways to pass the time when birds are on the mind but birding isn't on
> the table. Lord knows I'd love to look out the window and see a
> Lucifer's to fill in my state hummer card, but at the same time, I'd
> like to see any hummer species that would make #9 for the yard. I'm easy.
>
>
> On 10/4/2025 2:28 PM, Nancy L Newfield wrote:
> >
> > Paul, of course I like to fill up a page though I really think of
> > every member of our avian biota in terms of genus rather than by pages
> > in the field guide. And, I would be very pleased to add Lucifer
> > Hummingbird to my Louisiana list . . . this is especially troubling
> > because the Lucifer-looking hummer that I banded in River Ridge about
> > 20 years ago turned out to be a hybrid. Previously, I had banded a
> > couple of dozen of them in West Texas.
> >
> > Titanium Nan
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 4, 2025 at 10:06 AM Paul Conover <zoiseaux...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Nancy, Labird,
> >
> > Come on now, Titanium One, you know you used to like it
> > when you filled in a page:)
> >
> > And I know you'd be thrilled to get your Louisiana hummer
> > card all filled in!
> >
> > PEC
> >
> >
> > On 10/4/2025 9:41 AM, Nancy L Newfield wrote:
> >> Gee Paul,
> >>
> >> You surely are a trouble-maker!
> >>
> >> NLN
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 9:36 PM Paul Conover via groups.io
> >> <http://groups.io> <zoiseaux...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Labird,
> >>
> >> In the days when field guides took eternities between
> >> editions and
> >> birders tended to carry their battered copies of Peterson or
> >> the Golden
> >> Guide to the edge of doom, it used to be a thrill when I
> >> could check off
> >> every species portrayed on a page, all the buntings or
> >> woodpeckers or
> >> whatever. I found over the years that I wasn't unique in
> >> celebrating
> >> these small accomplishments, and when I'd compare notes with
> >> other
> >> birders, it was interesting to see whether the blanks on our
> >> pages were
> >> misses in common or just personal nemeses.
> >>
> >> Nowadays I tend to apply that exercise to groups of birds
> >> I've seen
> >> in Louisiana. Typically there's a species or two in each
> >> group that I
> >> realize have kept most/all Louisiana birders from running the
> >> table on
> >> certain groups. In some cases, it's pretty likely that no one
> >> will ever
> >> be able to complete a group list.
> >>
> >> Here's a list of groups (fairly arbitrarily grouped in some
> >> cases) and my best guess of whether anyone has seen them all.
> >> Some
> >> smaller groupings (swans, jaegers, etc.) I omitted, and I
> >> also removed
> >> extinct or probably extinct species. I'll leave names of
> >> birders out.
> >>
> >> Geese: Several birders have seen them all, with the limiting
> >> species
> >> being Brant.
> >>
> >> Ducks: No one (Origin Hypothetical Baikal Teal is the catch).
> >>
> >> Grebes: No current birders. Least Grebe! Maybe Lowery had
> >> them all, if
> >> he had Red-necked.
> >>
> >> Doves and Pigeons: Only those who have seen Band-tailed, the
> >> only hard one.
> >>
> >> Anis and Cuckoos: No one (Smooth-billed Ani). Mangrove Cuckoo
> >> next hardest.
> >>
> >> Nightjars: Several birders who saw/heard the sole Antillean
> >> Nighthawk
> >> record.
> >>
> >> Hummingbirds: Maybe one; the speed bump is Lucifer Hummingbird.
> >>
> >> Rails: Many
> >>
> >> Shorebirds: Probably; toughest is Siberian Sand-plover, and
> >> Black-tailed
> >> Godwit also narrows the field.
> >>
> >> Gulls: No one. Black-headed, Heermann's, and Western make it
> >> tough, and
> >> Kelp might be hard to get again.
> >>
> >> Terns: Several birders
> >>
> >> Loons: Some; not sure how many.
> >>
> >> Shearwaters: No one; Manx and Sooty are the limiters, and
> >> Cory's and
> >> Scopoli's are probably still only unofficially on lists.
> >>
> >> Sulids: A few; Red-footed is the hard one.
> >>
> >> Herons: Many (even if Great White Heron is included).
> >>
> >> Hawks: No one if Goshawk is included; very few otherwise
> >> because of
> >> Zone-tailed Hawk.
> >>
> >> Owls: No one, I think. Snowy (did anyone chase it?) and
> >> Flammulated
> >> would be a tough pair.
> >>
> >> Woodpeckers: No one. No one has all three of Williamson's and
> >> Red-naped
> >> sapsuckers, and Ladder-backed.
> >>
> >> Falcons: A few--Those who have seen Prairie Falcon.
> >>
> >> Flycatchers: None. Many tough ones.
> >>
> >> Vireos: No one; Plumbeous, Cassin's.
> >>
> >> Corvids: One birder. Clark's Nutcracker and Chihuahuan Raven the
> >> limiting species.
> >>
> >> Swallows: One birder.
> >>
> >> Wrens: Many
> >>
> >> Mimids: Many thanks to stakeout Curve-billed.
> >>
> >> Thrushes: Probably several. Varied and Townsend's Solitaire
> >> the hard pair.
> >>
> >> Longspurs: Several, I think.
> >>
> >> Sparrows: No one; Tree Sparrow, Baird's, Brewer's...
> >>
> >> Orioles: Many
> >>
> >> Blackbirds: Many
> >>
> >> Warblers: Probably none. Virginia's and Hermit, followed by
> >> several
> >> other tough ones that were however more widely viewed.
> >>
> >> Tanagers: Many
> >>
> >> Cardinals, Grosbeaks, Buntings: None. Varied Bunting, Blue
> >> Bunting,
> >> Pyrrhuloxia...
> >>
> >>
> >> Does anyone see any errors or omissions here?
> >>
> >> Paul Conover
> >>
> >> Lafayette
> >>
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> >>
> >> --
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Nancy L Newfield
> >> Casa Colibrí
> >> Metairie, Louisiana USA
> >> <nancy...>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Nancy L Newfield
> > Casa Colibrí
> > Metairie, Louisiana USA
> > <nancy...>
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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