Date: 8/14/25 12:28 pm From: <badgerboy...> Subject: Re: Yellow-rumped x Black-throated Blue hybrid at Hilton Head, SC
Not being very experienced with hybrids, I just wondered, after viewing the excellent photos on the CBC photo gallery, whether this might just be a full blooded Black-throated Blue Warbler with some male and some female plumage characteristics? The pocket handkerchief is shaped like a typical female BTBW's, the female BTBW has a fairly well defined supercilium like this bird, and otherwise it looks like a male BTBW that is missing some of its black on the throat and sides. Otherwise the brown smudges on the sides just below the wing remind me of a chestnut-sided. Like I said just asking and please refrain from abusive or sarcastic remarks-- I already know I'm a block-headed Irishman.
Guy (McGrane, Boone NC)
On 8/13/2025 12:29 PM, Harry LeGrand (via carolinabirds Mailing List) wrote: > Thanks, Jack and Kay (Grinnell). NOW we are getting somewhere! So, > Jack has pointed out to us two eBird checklists that show the bird was > reported on 5 February by Andy Jones and Bob Speare, and the earlier > and more significant one on 2 February by the photographer, Mary Alice > Tartler. As Kay has sent me her email address, I will send a message > to Mary Alice (and Kay), hoping that she will post several of her > photos to the eBird report. She already has several photos of a few > Ruby-throated Hummingbirds on the eBird list: > > eBird Checklist - 2 Feb 2025 - Honey Locust Circle - 19 species (+2 > other taxa) <https://ebird.org/checklist/S211892393> > > and thus it seems hopeful that she can post photos on this eBird list, > for permanent documentation. And, I will encourage her to add details > in "new world warbler sp.", to indicate that the bird has been > determined by experts to be a hybrid between Black-throated Blue > Warbler and Yellow-rumped Warbler. Yes, the second eBird list says that: > > eBird Checklist - 5 Feb 2025 - Honey Locust Circle (PRIVATE) - 23 > species (+1 other taxa) <https://ebird.org/checklist/S212105216> > > but without a description or a photograph, there is no documentation > for such a unique record. > > Harry LeGrand > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 12:08 PM <k.grinnell...> > <k.grinnell...> wrote: > > Mary Alice and Harry, > I'm introducing you via this email. > MA, see email below. > Harry, Mary Alice is the birder who sighted this bird, and I > believe she is the best person to answer your questions. > Best Regards, > Kay Grinnell > (President, Hilton Head Audubon) > > > Kay Grinnell > <k.grinnell...> > 10 Pelican Watch Court > Hilton Head Island SC 29926 > 843 597-3633 cell > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > *From:* Harry LeGrand" (via carolinabirds Mailing List) > <carolinabirds...> > *To:* Will Cook <cwcook...>; Harry LeGrand > <hlegrandjr...> > *Cc:* "<carolinabirds...>" <carolinabirds...> > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 13, 2025 at 11:57:06 AM EDT > *Subject:* Re: article about Yellow-rumped x Black-throated Blue > hybrid at Hilton Head, SC > > Will, > > Thanks for bringing up this scientifically interesting > bird/record. I'm currently working (i.e., struggling) on the > Summer Briefs for _The Chat,_ but I can always include > out-of-season records like this, so that it will get into printed > literature. It has now been added to my draft, which right now is > just into the waterfowl. > > I do see the observer, the "species", and the location, but the > date right now for me is just "winter 2024-25". I can cite a > color photo in The Island Packet, which appears to be the Hilton > Head Island newsletter/newspaper. However, in a few days I > suspect that most of us will be unable to access this report. > > If anyone reading this can provide a particular DAY, that would be > excellent. And, also, any other news source/outlet would be > helpful, as this is too significant to just appear one time only > in a town's newsletter/newspaper, never to be heard from again. > > Harry LeGrand > Briefs for the Files editor > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 11:23 AM Will Cook > <cwcook...> wrote: > > This bird was observed last winter, but the article is recent. > > https://www.islandpacket.com/news/local/environment/article311621106.html > > It doesn't appear to have been ebirded as far as I can tell. > > -- > Will Cook - Durham, NC > http://www.carolinanature.com/ <http://www.carolinanature.com/> >
