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Date: 7/7/25 12:39 pm
From: sarah fern <fernsarah21...>
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] ants in bird-feeders |
Oh, thanks for the info on ants. I imagined the smallest ones.
On Mon, Jul 7, 2025, 9:31 AM Deb Grantham <dgg3...> wrote:
> Most detergents contain endocrine-disruptors, active even in tiny amounts.
> Dyes are part of that. Dawn has dyes.
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> *From:* <bounce-128835488-83565122...> <
> <bounce-128835488-83565122...> *On Behalf Of *John Gregoire
> *Sent:* Monday, July 7, 2025 6:55 AM
> *To:* Paul Schmitt <pschmitt9...>; CAYUGABIRDS-L <
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> *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] ants in bird-feeders
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> A diagram or photo of your invention would help as most use an open
> cup between hanger and feeder. Any amt of soap could well be harmful to a
> hummer's very small mass.
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> On Mon, Jul 7, 2025 at 6:38 AM Paul Schmitt <pschmitt9...> wrote:
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> You perhaps misunderstand? It is not a one-cup liquid measure. That
> would be huge! Fabricated mine using a copper 1/2 inch pipe cap soldered
> to a short length of heavy copper wire. Anyhow, a single drop of Dawn is
> hardly toxic.
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> On Jul 7, 2025, at 6:30 AM, John Gregoire <johnandsuegregoire...>
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> Strongly advise against your suggestion to use soap Paul. Physically,
> breaking the surface tension is as you describe BUT, many birds including
> hummers drink from the ant cups.
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> On Sun, Jul 6, 2025 at 5:48 PM Paul Schmitt <pschmitt9...> wrote:
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> Ant guards only work if you add and a small, very small bit of soap to
> break the surface tension. Think Dawn. Similarly, I add a drop or two of
> dawn to the dandelion treatment so the treatment wets the weeds natural
> surface barrier.
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> Mine are hung from the house overhang by a 16 gauge wire with the ant
> guard at eye level. There is a S hook next to accept the feeder.
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> Also, NO RED DYE please.
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> Good luck.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 6, 2025, at 2:41 PM, Sandra J. Kisner <sjk3...> wrote:
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> Any suggestions for keeping ants out of hummingbird feeders? My
> sister-in-law has one, and even with an ant-guard on it they get in (and
> drown).
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