Date: 7/7/25 3:56 am
From: John Gregoire <johnandsuegregoire...>
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] ants in bird-feeders
A diagram or photo of your invention would help as most use an open
cup between hanger and feeder. Any amt of soap could well be harmful to a
hummer's very small mass.


On Mon, Jul 7, 2025 at 6:38 AM Paul Schmitt <pschmitt9...> wrote:

> You perhaps misunderstand? It is not a one-cup liquid measure. That
> would be huge! Fabricated mine using a copper 1/2 inch pipe cap soldered
> to a short length of heavy copper wire. Anyhow, a single drop of Dawn is
> hardly toxic.
>
> Paul
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 7, 2025, at 6:30 AM, John Gregoire <johnandsuegregoire...>
> wrote:
>
> 
> Strongly advise against your suggestion to use soap Paul. Physically,
> breaking the surface tension is as you describe BUT, many birds including
> hummers drink from the ant cups.
> John
>
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2025 at 5:48 PM Paul Schmitt <pschmitt9...> wrote:
>
>> Ant guards only work if you add and a small, very small bit of soap to
>> break the surface tension. Think Dawn. Similarly, I add a drop or two of
>> dawn to the dandelion treatment so the treatment wets the weeds natural
>> surface barrier.
>>
>>
>> Mine are hung from the house overhang by a 16 gauge wire with the ant
>> guard at eye level. There is a S hook next to accept the feeder.
>>
>> Also, NO RED DYE please.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Paul
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 6, 2025, at 2:41 PM, Sandra J. Kisner <sjk3...> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Any suggestions for keeping ants out of hummingbird feeders? My
>> sister-in-law has one, and even with an ant-guard on it they get in (and
>> drown).
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