Date: 7/1/25 6:58 am From: Scott Rashid <pygmyowl15...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
It’s interesting that only when the bird appears in estes that it becomes
thought of as an escaped bird.
How come it wasn’t thought of as an escapee when it was found farther south
in Colorado?
Scott Rashid
Estes park
On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 4:49 PM Susan Rosine <u5b2mtdna...> wrote:
> I wonder where they are (were) kept as caged birds? Native song birds are
> illegal to keep as pets, and the Migratory Bird Treaty Act covers the
> Yellow Grosbeak.
> I would assume (and hope) the Colorado sightings are not previously caged
> birds.
>
> Susan Rosine
> Brighton
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 11:55 AM Steingraeber,David <
> <David.Steingraeber...> wrote:
>
>> Apparently, Yellow Grosbeaks are known to be kept as cage birds. In *Rare
>> Birds of North America *by Howell, Lewington & Russell, the authors
>> state, "Because yellow grosbeaks are kept in captivity (Hamilton 2001),
>> extralimital records in both time and space are open to question." They
>> then give several examples where various state records committees have not
>> accepted extralimital occurrences, as well as cases where such occurrences
>> have been accepted. They end their discussion of the topic with this:
>> "Observers should not assume that extralimital records of this species are
>> escaped cage birds, and all such occurrences should be carefully
>> documented."
>>
>> David Steingraeber
>> Fort Collins
>>
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>> To my knowledge, they are not at all suitable to be a pet/caged bird.
>> Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>
>> Susan Rosine
>> Brighton
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2025, 8:31 PM John Shenot <johnshenot...> wrote:
>>
>> I was pleased to have the chance to see the Yellow Grosbeak in Estes Park
>> today. Even so, I find myself wondering if anyone on this group has
>> considered (perhaps privately?) that it might be an escaped cage bird? How
>> would one know? Given that this bird is a solid 1,000 miles out of range,
>> without any obvious weather phenomenon to explain its presence, is it
>> unreasonable for me to wonder?
>>
>> Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, sorry if it comes across that way.
>> I'm just a curious guy...
>>
>> John Shenot
>> Fort Collins
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