Date: 4/7/25 11:33 am
From: 'Rich Wolinski' via Birders <birders...>
Subject: Re: [birders] The rise of A.I. in Consumer Electronics…
Over the years working in the field as an ecologist I gave counting the
number of times my image and presence had been captured on camera
traps. Now it's pointless with cell phones acting as data collection
devices with apps such as Ebird and iNaturalist as your movements are
recorded within meters; including the route you traveled along with
date and time to a second.
These data are of course of great value for their intended uses. But
it does beg the question of how much privacy has unwittingly been
given away.
If truth be told these data could be used to good advantage if
analysis tools were developed for use at smaller scales by average
citizens. There is little evidence this is in the works.
Even in drafting this response the AI wants to chose my words and
spelling. Yes, it's in the guise of being helpful. But as the saying
goes: The road to hell is often paved with good intensions.
On Apr 7, 2025 10:57 AM, Fred Kaluza <fkaluza...> wrote:

Here are a couple more…
Birdnet-PIhttps://www.birdweather.com/birdnetpi

Haiku boxhttps://haikubox.com

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From: Marta Manildi <mamanildi...>
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2025 9:25:08 AM
To: Fred Kaluza <fkaluza...>
Cc: Birders UM <birders...>
Subject: Re: [birders] The rise of A.I. in Consumer Electronics… This
is a big question and I dont have answer. In this time of rapidly
growing autocracy and cruel destruction of common goods and
communities of all kinds, I find the risks of misuse of aggregated
personal recognition data, with sound!, terrifying. In Iran this
kind of aggregated tech is being used to identify and track women
in every moment of their lives, so it is known when they take off
their hijab, drive a car, speak to anyone. Under our current
government, which cares nothing for the environment, abuse will
occur. And at the same time, video of wild creatures in their
spaces is a huge tool for engaging people to care - and perhaps
then to do some good.Â
Just the other day I was walking in Nichols Arboretum - it was
cold and I didn’t see anyone else there the whole time. I
noticed this, and experienced a profound, quiet joy and
humbleness. I was just another creature in the world. I was
unobserved.Â
Marta
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 6, 2025, at 8:40 PM, Fred Kaluza <fkaluza...>
wrote:

 and Big Brother in the outdoors. Â The military has been
using network-based pattern recognition for years. Â Lately,
this technology has found its way to the consumer market.
 Bird-Buddy and Birdfy have been using visual-based platforms
in their feeders and nest boxes for a few years and today…I
learned there are companies using audio-capture devices.
 Just wondering what you folks think about these.  I might
jump in but the recurring subscription fees seem onerous.
 One of these devices calls itself a “soundscape
analyzer”.  Similar to “Ring” and other cloud-based
camera systems, can you imagine if law enforcement avails
themselves of the content of millions of these distributed
monitoring stations? Â Both very beneficial and very scary
from a privacy perspective. Â High-gain and high fidelity with
centralized digital processing? Â Wow.
https://petapixel.com/2025/01/07/wonder-petal-nature-camera-mimics-a-flower-to-attract-birds-and-bugs/
https://www.birdweather.com/shop-birdweather-puc

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