Date: 3/21/25 12:28 pm
From: Paul Roisen via groups.io <roisenp1950...>
Subject: [NEBirds] communication systems
Tobin,
I appreciate your response. I did not intend to indicate that other
forms of communication as I consider these communication channels vital,
especially when a group of people are spread out chasing or looking for a
rarity that was seen. Some kind of group texting app system that alerts
each of the different parties who might be searching as to where they have
checked without success or if the rarity has been relocated and including
location coordinates.
They are also great for use on field trips, local, or NOU etc if people
might be spread out and a rarity or unusual species is spotted.

I know that there was a group created by Caleb Strand? and a group that was
working pretty well and then petered out for some reason or another.
(cannot remember the app that was used).

Thanks for the follow up.

God Bless,

*Paul O. Roisen*
*Woodbury County, IA*
*Mobile 712-301-2817*


On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 11:10 AM Tobin Brown via groups.io <tobinjbrown=
<gmail.com...> wrote:

> Well said, Paul.
>
> I don't mean to encourage people to use other channels *instead of *NEBirds,
> but they do exist and can be useful, and getting as many people in
> different groups will increase the chances that rarities get reported back
> to here.
>
> There was an interesting discussion a few months ago on the ABA podcast
> about how de-centralized the communication systems are now for birding.
> Instead of just a hotline, there's now dozens of platforms, email chains,
> ebird etc. There are pros and cons, but it's what we have. I'm fairly new
> to the scene, so never experienced the phone-only days, but it is difficult
> to juggle so many communication systems to track information down.
>
> That being said, I DO plan on continuing to use this for rarities, and I
> hope others do as well! Being able to share a rare bird with other birders
> is a great feeling! If someone *does *track down that Common Crane again,
> you can bet I'll head back out there...the haystack won on Tuesday.
>
> Tobin Brown
> Lancaster County
>
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 9:04 PM Paul Roisen via groups.io <roisenp1950=
> <gmail.com...> wrote:
>
>> Ross, Tobin, Mike etc.
>> Interesting discussion regarding some kind of additional birding
>> communication system. I would like to offer my thoughts on throwing in
>> another "communication system" into the NEBirds and the couple of others
>> floating around.
>>
>> *Personal Comments:*
>> NEBirds really should be the "go to" communication system for members
>> of the NOU. It is immediately news to all of the membership and is faster
>> than posts even to eBrid (which is a big part of my focus personally) in
>> the sense of when it is posted (which is often after completing a
>> checklist--which may or may not be done at in a timely manner (for a rarity
>> or a quick chase).
>>
>> *Concerns:*
>> Separate communications systems are not as widely followed or even be
>> known to, or made available to so many of the NEBirders
>> The groups often disappear if the owner/manager of the list loses
>> interest or moves away.
>> Additionally, they often get the reputation of being a kind of
>> private/elitist group which puts people off a little, even though this was
>> not the intention of the owner/manager or group.
>>
>> *Tangentially:*
>> Once a rarity is reported and people begin to chase or look for this
>> "rarity" one way we can encourage and be helpful to all birders is for
>> those of us who "chase" a bird of interest is to *REPORT BACK ASAP* as
>> to whether you located or did NOT relocate the bird. This is not to say
>> that the bird could still be there or not it just gives people better
>> information as to whether they should make the chase or not:
>> If you are *blessed to relocate the rarity*, Please REPORT IT,
>> to NEBirds (groups.io)
>> If you were *unable to relocate the rarity*, Please REPORT IT, *that
>> as well* to NEBirds (group.io) ASAP as well.
>> Personally, part of birding should be to make it fun and inclusive
>> for all regardless of ability or knowledge.
>>
>> As an aside, I was tempted to head down for the Common Crane (would have
>> been a county bird) glad I did not chase as it stayed hidden somewhere!
>>
>> God Bless you all and great birding to you all.
>> *Paul O. Roisen*
>> *Woodbury County, IA*
>>
>> *Mobile 712-301-2817*
>>
>>>
>
>


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