Date: 2/25/25 3:33 pm
From: Michael McBrien <mcbrienmr...>
Subject: [nysbirds-l] eBirding Guidance for the yellow-legged Larus at Old Field Pt, Suffolk Co.
As many readers on this forum may be aware, a yellow-legged Larus gull
closely resembling the northern population of European Herring Gull, and
affectionately known by locals as Crabby, is currently present (and has
been returning for several winters) to Old Field Point, Suffolk County.

There has been much discussion in previous years regarding this gull --
both here, on ID Frontiers, and via Shai and Patrice's publication in The
Kingbird -- as well as on various online forums currently ongoing. Strong
cases have been made for this bird being an 'omissus'-type European Herring
Gull (see here
<https://www.nybirds.org/KBsearch/y2022v72n2/y2022v72n2no-domeischel136.pdf?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2bZDZeSzP7VEci9KQoX3fiDo0yx054-v1NtcSEbUCD-v-BDgDV3fyWWv8_aem_34BF1S9u1MK7myCOJS1h0Q#search=%22old%20field%20point%20argentatus%22>
and
in Shai's recent email to this list), as well as discussion that it could
be a hybrid.

The Suffolk eBird team (as well as the NY eBird team at large) has been
actively discussing this bird; I'd like to share some guidance on best
practices of how to eBird this unique gull right now.

We are encouraging observers to report this individual as "Larus sp." in
eBird, in lieu of reporting it as a European Herring Gull as a placeholder
on your list. We would emphasize that it would be prudent not to eBird it
as a European Herring Gull assuming it is only a matter of time before it
will be accepted, but rather log it in this manner and only change the
entry to EHGU later if a final determination is made. We would like to
ensure that all of the media is valuably preserved in the eBird database
now -- while this bird is still being reviewed -- as well as in the future,
and this will ensure that happens. If you decide not to take this route at
the moment, please rest assured that this entry will remain on your
personal lists.

The New York State Avian Records Committee (NYSARC) has received
multiple submissions of this individual so far, and will be deliberating on
the record in the coming weeks in our upcoming voting round. If additional
guidance needs to be circulated once this record is voted on, the Suffolk
review team will be in contact with any additional information.

There is a growing photoset of media of this individual online; however, if
you obtain good documentation or have additional thoughts on the ID that
have not already been published, I would encourage you to submit a report
to NYSARC! Please see our downloadable form available at:
https://nybirds.org/NYSARC/nysarcform2024.pdf

Lastly, I would strongly encourage birders to visit Old Field Point to see
this interesting bird. I'd encourage everyone to please continue to eBird
this bird and attach any photos that you obtain. Whether you enjoy sifting
through the cryptic ID points of rare gulls or not, it is quite a
magnificent gull and a very unique bird to study.

Best,
Mike McBrien
<mcbrienmr...>

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