Date: 2/13/25 2:01 pm From: Paul Glass (via carolinabirds Mailing List) <carolinabirds...> Subject: Re[2]: Conservation Access Pass Proposed by NCWRC
Virginia implemented a similar system in 2012. I tried to find some
information on how much revenue it has generated, but I haven't been
successful. Everything I found lumps all the license fees (hunting,
fishing, access, etc) together. Personally I bought a lifetime fishing
license to meet the requirements since they don't have a lifetime option
for the access permit and DWR actually recommends either a hunting or
fishing license in lieu of the access permit because they get some
additional matching funds from the federal government. Unfortunately I
don't think it's made any difference from a birder's perspective to
getting more influence at the negotiating table. Also, in 13 years I've
never had anyone ask to see my permit.
Paul Glass
South Boston, VA
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To "J. Merrill Lynch" <jmerrilllynch...>; "Nate Dias"
<offshorebirder...>; "M Howell" <hareboro...>
Cc "Ann Robertson" <annbluebird2730...>; "CarolinaBirds"
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Date 1/1/0001 12:00:00 AM
Subject Re: Conservation Access Pass Proposed by NCWRC
>I think Duck Stamps go to federal funding thru U.S. Fish & Wildlife.
>This concept being discussed is about creating a means to contribute to
>state DNR coffers, I believe.
>
>Kay
>Hilton Head
>
>Kay Grinnell
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>On Thursday, February 13, 2025 at 04:31:17 PM EST, M Howell
><hareboro...> wrote:
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>I have been to states that require fees or a Duck Stamp for entry into
>wildlife refuges and similar areas. Wouldn't this, an established and
>known program, work for NC and SC?
>
>Mae Howell
>Goldsboro NC
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>To: J. Merrill Lynch <jmerrilllynch...>; Nate Dias
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>Subject: Re: Conservation Access Pass Proposed by NCWRC
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>I agree Nate! I'm sure Dr. Tom Mullikin, SC's new Exec Director of DNR
>has his hands full. I wonder if he heard from all the bird clubs and
>Audubons around the state of SC if he might consider putting this kind
>of action on his agenda.
>
>As President of Hilton Head Audubon, I'm ready to stir up some energy
>for this!
>
>Kay
>Hilton Head
>
>Kay Grinnell
><k.grinnell...>
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>On Thursday, February 13, 2025 at 01:47:10 PM EST, Nate Dias" (via
>carolinabirds Mailing List) <carolinabirds...> wrote:
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>I wish SC DNR would do the same thing.
>
>Nathan Dias - Charleston, SC
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>"These days I prefer to hunt with a camera. A good photograph demands
>more skill from the hunter, better nerves and more patience than the
>rifle shot." -- Bror Blixen
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>On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 1:11 PM "J. Merrill Lynch"
><carolinabirds...> wrote:
>>I agree this would be a good thing to support. Many other states
>>already have a special permit for access to public gamelands. A
>>requirement to wear blaze orange during hunting season would be a
>>sensible addition.
>>
>>And I also agree it would give the non-hunting community a bigger seat
>>at the table on decisions regarding public lands management.
>>
>>J. Merrill Lynch
>>Echo Valley Farm
>>Watauga County, NC
>>Elevation: 3,400 feet
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 11:16 AM Ann Robertson
>><carolinabirds...> wrote:
>>>Dear Carolinabirders,
>>>
>>>In this morning's Coastal Review, I read about an exciting proposal
>>>from the NC Wildlife Resources Commission to offer a "Conservation
>>>Access Pass". This would be the birder equivalent of a hunting /
>>>fishing license, and would renew annually. The pass would provide
>>>entry to 2 million acres of gameland, boating access areas, and more.
>>> It is not limited to birders; a range of recreational uses are
>>>mentioned
>>>
>>>There are three public meetings across the state, coming up soon.
>>>There's also a VIRTUAL meeting on March 4th, for which you may
>>>register.
>>>
>>>I was told a while back by a politically experienced birder that one
>>>reason birders don't carry as much weight with state officials as
>>>hunters is that we don't contribute to the public till with special
>>>taxes, licenses, etc. Apparently, at one time a "birders' tax" was
>>>proposed on items such as binoculars, birdseed, etc., that would have
>>>fed into conservation. Our flock apparently did not endorse this,
>>>sadly.
>>>
>>>I may be wrong, and wiser heads may weigh in, but I believe this
>>>Conservation Access Pass would be a win-win. It would provide access
>>>to wonderful birding areas while funding our under-resourced NCWRC.
>>>Here's a link to the article so you may consider this issue:
>>>https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://coastalreview.org/2025/02/state-seeks-feedback-on-proposed-conservation-access-pass/__;!!OToaGQ!o4cDuTR2Knj5u4E1SWKUhlBATs04lyk7fIygeU8Xl_v7vHWeORW0FRWGH3w3mQZjNq9JGExK5Mbrx9Gvdg$ >>><https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://coastalreview.org/2025/02/state-seeks-feedback-on-proposed-conservation-access-pass/__;!!OToaGQ!sQbft_AcXNQj8ledwFhYKky5NbZn7hca1wSaI14YgPSug_57wpicBzaStZZ4T4YPmUX3aRzPCYnXvYK17yBxJIbgMXyGXw$> >>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>Ann Blue Robertson
>>>Winston-Salem
>
