Date: 10/8/24 7:51 am From: Cynthia Freeman via groups.io <Cynthiafreeman633...> Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Possible Black-headed Grosbeak
Good morning all,
If anyone is on Dauphin Island, the wood stork is here! I have attached a
bad pic as I have not downloaded them yet. It was seen flying from the east
end beach area and heading west towards pelican island area. Flew directly
over my house in Desoto Landing. What a great "yard" bird. I'll go see if I
can relocate it...
Cynthia
Cynthia L Freeman
On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 9:37 AM Jud Johnston via groups.io <egrosbeak1946=
<gmail.com...> wrote:
> Thanks to all who commented on this grosbeak. Mrs Hayes posted another
> photo yesterday, but it was clearly a rose-breasted, and perhaps the
> subject bird has moved on.
>
> Jud Johnston
> Waynesboro, TN
>
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 8:23 AM Greg D. Jackson via groups.io <g_d_jackson=
> <bellsouth.net...> wrote:
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>> I agree with Jim about desiring better photos. However, looking at the
>> one best showing the breast (bird facing outwards), I believe I’m seeing a
>> tuft of reddish at the side of the breast protruding from under the bend of
>> the wing. If this is real, it could represent the feathers from the
>> underwing coverts which are reddish pink in male Rose-breasted (lemon
>> yellow in Black-headed), a very helpful mark but often not visible at rest.
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>>
>> Immature male Rose-breasteds can be very colorful and have a breast
>> pattern almost exactly like a female Black-headed. And many don’t have
>> patchy red on the central breast. So these get very tricky and you want as
>> many good views and as good a study as possible for possible Black-headed
>> here.
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>> And I agree with Larry about the bill color. The bicolored bill of
>> Black-headed is a mark to apply in spring, not fall, when more
>> Rose-breasteds show it too. Even in spring it is not definitive without
>> other supporting characters, though is helpful then.
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>> Greg
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>> Greg D. Jackson
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>> Birmingham, AL
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>> *From:* <ALbirds...> <ALbirds...> *On Behalf Of *Jim Holmes
>> via groups.io
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 1, 2024 5:49 PM
>> *To:* <ALbirds...>
>> *Subject:* Re: [ALbirds] Possible Black-headed Grosbeak
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, it is definitely a grosbeak and could be Black-headed but I think
>> we need some better photos.
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>> Thanks,
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>> Jim
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>> James F. Holmes, MD, MPH
>>
>> Professor and Interim Chair
>>
>> Department of Emergency Medicine
>>
>> UC Davis School of Medicine
>>
>> office (916) 734-1533
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>>
>>
>> *From:* <ALbirds...> <ALbirds...> *On Behalf Of *Jud
>> Johnston via groups.io
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 1, 2024 3:36 PM
>> *To:* <ALbirds...>
>> *Subject:* Re: [ALbirds] Possible Black-headed Grosbeak
>>
>>
>>
>> facebook.com/groups/1381237825458572
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>>
>> Thanks. I tried to paste a photo, but nix.
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>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 4:13 PM Jim Holmes via groups.io <jfholmes=
>> <ucdavis.edu...> wrote:
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>> Is there a link?
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>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> James F. Holmes, MD, MPH
>> Professor and Executive Vice Chair
>> Department of Emergency Medicine
>> UC Davis School of Medicine
>> office (916) 734-1533
>>
>>
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>> *From:* <ALbirds...> <ALbirds...> on behalf of Jud Johnston
>> via groups.io <egrosbeak1946...>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 1, 2024 1:29 PM
>> *To:* <ALbirds...> <ALbirds...>
>> *Subject:* [ALbirds] Possible Black-headed Grosbeak
>>
>>
>>
>> A lady named Kayla Hayes has posted photos on the Birding Alabama FB page
>> of a grosbeak with bicolored bill that seems to me to be a black-headed
>> grosbeak. I've never seen one, so would appreciate more knowledgable
>> looks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jud Johnston
>>
>> Waynesboro, TN
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