Date: 7/30/19 7:17 pm
From: Alex Lamoreaux <aslamoreaux...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Titmouse Oak or Juniper?
My point is in line with Tim’s comments; I am more getting at how are
birders making this identification? There is a broad region of
hybridization in northern California connecting the Klamath Falls birds to
the Willow Valley/Adel birds. Vocals and plumage are not reliably separated
in the field. So it seems the only reason these are being IDed as Juniper
is based on historical specimens and habitat. Is that sufficient? How are
hybrids being ruled out? Seems to me these should be entered as Oak/Juniper
(Plain Titmouse) until contemporary evidence for one or the other is
collected.

Even then, from a field ID standpoint... how can anyone be confident what
they are seeing/hearing in Lake County are Juniper over hybrid.

Alex

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 5:07 PM Tom Crabtree <tc...> wrote:

> No Alex, they are indeed Junipers, it is the edge of their range, but in
> the proper habitat and not in Oak Titmouse habitat.
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> Also, is there any real evidence those Adel area birds are actually
> Juniper... they are almost certainly hybrids or just Oak.
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> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 8:38 PM Larry S. Goodhew <lsg...> wrote:
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> This is a titmouse I saw 10/21/18 in Klamath Falls It may be to brownish
> to be a Juniper. Would like some feedback. Thanks. Larry Goodhew
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