Date: 7/30/19 5:27 pm
From: Alan Contreras <acontrer56...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Titmouse Oak or Juniper?
Thanks Tom. I have no idea what the hybrid situation is like. As is often the case, Oregon is a Zone of Complications.


Alan Contreras
<acontrer56...>
Eugene, Oregon

www.alanlcontreras.com



> On Jul 30, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Tom Crabtree <tc...> wrote:
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> Alan,
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> Here are two maps for comparison. First is Juniper Titmouse. There are no records in eBird west of what the map shows.
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> <image001.png>
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> The next is of Oak Titmouse. There are no records east of what this shows:
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> <image004.jpg>
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> There are no records for Oak Titmouse in Nevada according to the Nevada Bird Records Committee (or in eBird for that matter). As the map shows, Adel is due north of the Nevada state line.
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> Tom Crabtree
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> From: <obol-bounce...> <mailto:<obol-bounce...> [mailto:<obol-bounce...> <mailto:<obol-bounce...>] On Behalf Of Alan Contreras
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:15 PM
> To: <aslamoreaux...> <mailto:<aslamoreaux...>
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> Subject: [obol] Re: Titmouse Oak or Juniper?
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> As far as I know there are no known specimens or otherwise proven Oak Titmouse east of California and the s. Klamath River of Oregon and all the ones in Nevada are considered Juniper.
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> I’m not sure if anyone has studied the ones in Lake County Oregon but I’m not sure why they’d be presumed Oak. That said, there is very little Juniper T population in nw Nevada according to the state atlas and I’m not sure where the populations connect.
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> Joel, what’s the status around Sheldon?
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> Alan Contreras
> <acontrer56...> <mailto:<acontrer56...>
> Eugene, Oregon
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> www.alanlcontreras.com <http://www.alanlcontreras.com/>
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> On Jul 30, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Alex Lamoreaux <aslamoreaux...> <mailto:<aslamoreaux...>> wrote:
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> Also, is there any real evidence those Adel area birds are actually Juniper... they are almost certainly hybrids or just Oak.
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> Alex
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> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 8:38 PM Larry S. Goodhew <lsg...> <mailto:<lsg...>> wrote:
>> This is a titmouse I saw 10/21/18 in Klamath Falls It may be to brownish
>> to be a Juniper. Would like some feedback. Thanks. Larry Goodhew
>> Walla walla.
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