Date: 7/30/19 3:52 pm
From: Alan Contreras <acontrer56...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Titmouse Oak or Juniper?
Any idea where Walker’s specimens are now? I doubt that those would be at the Tillamook museum. Probably at San Diego or LA unless he sent them to DC.

There is at least a small population of mausen ne of K Falls that Kevin Spencer found a few years back. Still within the Sprague-Williamson system as I recall.


Alan Contreras
<acontrer56...>
Eugene, Oregon

www.alanlcontreras.com


> On Jul 30, 2019, at 3:47 PM, larspernorgren <larspernorgren...> wrote:
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> The Adel titmice have been there for over 100 years that we know of. Tillamook's greatest son, Alex Walker, collected some as soon as the Model T was on the market it seems. There have been no detections in the area between Lakeview and Kfalls in the ensuing century. The fieldwork that led to the Oak/Juniper split was done on the Modoc Plateau, the California side of said landscape. Generally they Do Not hybridize there, but breed sympatrically.
> I am mystified by such an off the cuff dismissal of Adel's Bæolophus bonafides. That entire border region deserves more attention. Whether it's botanizing ,birding, or butterflies, every visitor is guaranteed a steady stream of pleasant surprises. Lars
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Alan Contreras <acontrer56...>
> Date: 7/30/19 3:14 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: <aslamoreaux...>
> Cc: <obol...>
> Subject: [obol] Re: Titmouse Oak or Juniper?
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> As far as I know there are no known specimens or otherwise proven Oak Titmouse east of California and the s. Klamath River of Oregon and all the ones in Nevada are considered Juniper.
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> I’m not sure if anyone has studied the ones in Lake County Oregon but I’m not sure why they’d be presumed Oak. That said, there is very little Juniper T population in nw Nevada according to the state atlas and I’m not sure where the populations connect.
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> Joel, what’s the status around Sheldon?
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> Alan Contreras
> <acontrer56...> <mailto:<acontrer56...>
> Eugene, Oregon
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>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Alex Lamoreaux <aslamoreaux...> <mailto:<aslamoreaux...>> wrote:
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>> Also, is there any real evidence those Adel area birds are actually Juniper... they are almost certainly hybrids or just Oak.
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>> Alex
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>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 8:38 PM Larry S. Goodhew <lsg...> <mailto:<lsg...>> wrote:
>> This is a titmouse I saw 10/21/18 in Klamath Falls It may be to brownish
>> to be a Juniper. Would like some feedback. Thanks. Larry Goodhew
>> Walla walla.
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