Date: 5/12/19 1:31 pm
From: Marcia Balestri <mebalestri...>
Subject: Re: [MDBirding] Nitpicking--Counting rules at borders in an "official" count
I love it!
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Marcia Balestri
Worcester County, Maryland
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“...ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." Charles Darwin, 1871


> On May 12, 2019, at 4:29 PM, Hugh McGuinness <hdmcguinness...> wrote:
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> Oh, and one more thing. If a person is standing in one county and the bird is in another county, but the person reports it for their county, I think we should call it "nip-ticking" which is what I thought your subject line was when I first read you e-mail. It'd be a great new term in the birding lexicon. For example, the 10th time I see Golden Eagle from DC that is not in DC and I file it for DC anyway, you can say, "McGuinness he nip-ticked that Golden Eagle. What a jacker!"
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> On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 4:26 PM Hugh McGuinness <hdmcguinness...> <mailto:<hdmcguinness...>> wrote:
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> We always assume that as a birder you are doing the best you can to be truthful. As Jim stated the bird is counted for the county where it is. Much to my own personal distress I now seen Golden eagle twice while I was standing in DC, but the bird was in VA. Still don't have it for DC, but it was a Golden Eagle so the experience was wicked cool in any event. I have responded to your scenarios below.
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> On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 4:03 PM 'Jim Stasz' via Maryland & DC Birding <mdbirding...> <mailto:<mdbirding...>> wrote:
> The bird is listed in the county where it is.
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> Jim Stasz
> North Beach MD
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> On Sunday, May 12, 2019 Marcia Balestri <mebalestri...> <mailto:<mebalestri...>> wrote:
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> I live in a county with lots of good birding spots that borders 2 other counties and try to include these areas when I do a county count (like a May Count or a fall count) to share anything that is on the “other side” of the county line with the appropriate county coordinator. Can I count/share a bird that I hear in one county, but is physically sitting in the other county? You can only count it for the county it is in. I would think the answer to this would be no, since that would be double-counted. But what if I am only hearing it and can’t really tell which county it is actually sitting (You do the best job you can to determine where it is and then count it for that locality.) in or more importantly, I can’t tell whether it is 2 different birds or just 1 that just flew over to the “other side” If it flies to the other side it counts for both counties. This doesn’t come up often as there are usually enough birds on both sides of the line to “share” between counties, but every now and then there are some head scratchers that can cost time trying to figure out what to do. Now I realize that the purpose is to try to get an accurate count, but we are rabid in Maryland about county listing (and counting) ;-), and some counters don’t like to share (just kidding, of course). So if there is some hard and fast written down rule somewhere, I would like to know it.
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> And while I am here, just out of curiosity, when you are just counting for your own list and standing in one county and hear or see a bird in another county, which county do you put it in? Already answered. It goes on your list for the other county. Or do you stand there until if flies into your county and count it on both county lists? As long as you file two separate lists, you can count it for both counties. It took me ten tries to get Mississippi Kite in DC last year. I filed 10 lists for VA, and finally one for DC, even though on each occasion I was in DC.
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> Marcia Balestri
> Worcester County, Maryland
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