Date: 5/3/19 6:18 am
From: Les R. Becker <lesrbecker2...>
Subject: Re: [MDBirding] Re: Banding codes formerly 'GWWA Montgomery'
Mr. Gibson,

Thank you for your comment regarding inclusiveness. The banding code discussion (IMHO) is merely a symptom of a regrettable trend in Maryland in the opposing direction.

Sent from my iPhone 8 Plus

Les

> On May 2, 2019, at 22:59, world oceans <world.oceans7...> wrote:
>
> Thank you, Jared, for making the right decision. I hope this will put
> an end to the name-calling and huffing and puffing about birding
> codes. Anyone who thinks it is unfair to have to spell out the name of
> a bird, for the benefit of dozens of people reading their post, is
> welcome to contact me offline. I will send you the relevant short
> section of a chapter on birding ethics in my forthcoming book. As a
> Maryland birder for six decades, what I value most about that
> experience is that Maryland birders rank very high among all the
> states in terms of going the extra mile to make birding easier for
> others. Let's keep doing so.
>
> Respectfully,
> James Gibson
>
>> On 4/30/19, Jared Fisher <jaredfisher...> wrote:
>> Rick, Clive, All,
>>
>> The 'rule' on use of banding codes may be better interpreted as a very
>> strong suggestion. I don't admonish anyone for occasionally breaking this
>> guideline, and, of course, posting hurriedly from the field about a rarity
>> 100x trumps the 'rule' when it can be so quickly clarified by someone else
>> if needed. I won't be changing this guideline because I believe it's best
>> for clarity & archival/searching to avoid it's overuse. You are all correct
>> that codes can be quickly looked up with google searches and are available
>> in apps/books, but another issue is that people very often get banding
>> codes incorrect when trying to abbreviate a bird's name down to 4 letters.
>> I see this all the time even among groups where people 'know' the codes. In
>> addition to thread derailments on correctly used codes, I can easily see
>> situations where an ambiguous non-code would spawn 20+ emails wondering
>> what someone meant by BTGW, BASW, or SASP.
>>
>> Jared Fisher
>> MDBirding Moderator
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 9:07 PM 'Clive Harris' via Maryland & DC Birding <
>> <mdbirding...> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all
>>>
>>> I’d like to respectfully suggest to the moderator of the group that the
>>> rules of the group change to allow the use of abbreviations only.
>>>
>>> It’s 2019 not 1999 or 2004. When banding codes were first used it was
>>> hard to work out what they meant. These days we don’t even need an app
>>> to
>>> find bird codes. Google search on my phone gives “GWWA Golden-winged
>>> Warbler” as the first item when I type in “GWWA Bird Code. “. We are all
>>> reading these emails on smart phones or a laptop and can do this if we’re
>>> curious. If we’re not we can delete the email.
>>>
>>> We way see too few posts from the field here on this group. I am
>>> sufficiently bad at typing on my phone that it’s abbreviations or nothing
>>> from the field! I’d rather spend the time looking at the bird than
>>> correcting my typing particularly when it’s a species that turns up in
>>> the
>>> county a couple of times a year at best and that other people would want
>>> to, and in this case did, come to find.
>>>
>>> I’d encourage others to use banding codes if it would increase the number
>>> of emails from the field.
>>>
>>> TTFN (to save you all looking that up that’s “ta ta for now” - an English
>>> phrase).
>>>
>>> Clive Harris
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Apr 29, 2019, at 8:01 PM, JAMES SPEICHER <jugornought...>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I had "drafted" this response, but wanted to wait a bit to see
>>>> developments. I had just gotten home after being passed on a blind
>>>> curve/hill by an idiot who might have killed himself, me, and whoever
>>>> might have been in the oncoming lane - all in an effort to save a few
>>>> minutes on his commute. As luck would have it, there was no one in
>>>> the oncoming lane. In that light, the old use of band codes vs full
>>>> names debate was a little less pressing.
>>>>
>>>> Still having read Rick Borchelt's comments, I will add mine:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/28/19, Edward Kirk <iekirk301...> wrote:
>>>>> What is a GWWA?
>>>>
>>>> I was able to figure it out without too much thought, but we are
>>>> supposed to use full names in posts the last I heard.
>>>>
>>>> So yes, tease us with the abbrev, but in the post somewhere use the
>>>> full name. It's what we agree to do and it's polite too.
>>>>
>>>> Allowance, of course, for those in the field with only a cell & seeing
>>>> a super rarity...GWWA doesn't really qualify...& even those folks
>>>> should quickly follow up with a full name post when their hands stop
>>>> shaking.
>>>>
>>>> Jim Speicher
>>>> BroadRun/Burkittsville area
>>>> [FR] Frederick County MD
>>>> M.O.S. member, Washington [WA] Co Chapter
>>>>
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