Date: 2/3/19 7:18 pm
From: Joe Roller <jroller9...>
Subject: Re: [cobirds] RE: How to find your true Colorado bird list total
Andy,
This is NOT my understanding.
You can count those geese on the ABA checklist ONLY if you have
seen them in the states out east where they have been accepted by the state
bird record committees.
Ditto with Mute Swan and Budgerigar. They are established and countable in
some states, but you have
to see one where the local population is *established* in order to add it
to your ABA area or Lower 48 list.
"Personal judgment" does not trump State Records Committees. The whole idea
of having rules for listing
is so we are all on a level playing field.

Joe Roller, Denver

On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 7:59 PM Andrew Bankert <abankert2007...>
wrote:

> I just wanted to add a quick note that is really minor about listing. If
> you do report your totals to the ABA you can count anything on the ABA
> checklist in your state totals even if that species hasn't been accepted by
> the state records committee. That means for ABA, you can count Pink-footed
> and Barnacle Goose if, in your own personal best judgement, you think they
> arrived unassisted by man. You cannot count Rufous-collared Sparrow since
> that does not appear on the ABA checklist. For ABA, you can even count
> Mute Swan if you see one you believe is a stray from the countable
> populations in the Midwest. I still think that using the official state
> list is a better way to keep track, but I just wanted to clarify for anyone
> using ABA's listing rules.
>
> Andy Bankert
> Fort Collins
>
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