Date: 1/1/19 7:45 am
From: Robert O'Brien <baro...>
Subject: [obol] Eurasian Wigeon at Force Lake
to Wayne's comments about identifying individual males, I would add to look
for hybrids as well. An interesting question is where these Eurasian wigeon
are originating and whether they actually breed in North America or Asia in
areas where American wigeon also breed. or whether they form mixed pairs on
the winter grounds and then go back to nest as many ducks do.

and if that's not enough for you, try to pick out the females and then the
hybrid females. one could devote an entire birding career to just these two
And then take the Summers off.

O'Brien Carver Oregon

ps although Wayne is gone in the flesh his virtual omnipresence is much

On Tuesday, January 1, 2019, Wayne Hoffman <whoffman...> wrote:
> Hi -
> It is cool that you are finding Eurasian Wigeons, and I suspect multiple
birds may be involved.
> In recent decades Eurasian Wigeons have been common enough that I expect
these could easily all be different birds. In particular I would expect a
bird on Sauvies Island to be different than the one(s) in north Portland.
In numerous places in Western Oregon and Washington multiple drakes can be
seen at once. A few years ago I picked 14 out of a large raft of American
Wigeons on Yaquina Bay, and finding 3-5 is routine there. I recall a
report of 40 or more together on Skagit Flats. When the Eugene Falcated
Duck first was found (just below the Fern Ridge dam) it was in the company
of multiple Eurasian Wigeons. A little city park in SE Albany (Grand
Prairie Park?) routinely hosts several. In urban areas where they are not
hunted, and have lawns to graze plus water to escape to from dogs, they
tend to have pretty small winter ranges, again suggesting multiple birds.
> One other thing - if these birds can be approached closely enough for
good photographs, many drake wigeons can be distinguished by plumage
differences. Particular things to compare include 1) the shade and the
length of the pale stripe on the crown - color can vary from pale cream
almost to butter, and on some birds it extends farther back over the crown
than on others; 2) the color of red on the rest of the head; as well as any
broken feathers or other anomalies that might identify an individual.
> Wayne
> On 12/31/2018 10:18:22 PM, Timothy Steeves <timothydsteeves...>
> Another place the Eurasion Widgeon could be seen is at Wapato Greenway
Access on Sauvie Island. I spotted a male Eurasian Widgeon last Thursday
mixed with a lot of AM Widgeon. Not sure if it is the same one seen at
Force Lake, but always good to see one.
> Timothy Steeves
> On Dec 31, 2018 6:18 PM, "Lyn Topinka" <pointers...> wrote:
>> the Eurasian Wigeon was first seen at Force Lake on the 29th by Brodie
Talbot's father (in-law???) ... we had him there too a lttle after 3:00
... on the 30th Brodie found him at Vanport and apparently so did folks
today ( the 31st) ... so folks looking for him tomorrow (2019) try both
places !!!
>> Happy New Years birding !!!
>> Lyn
>> Lyn Topinka
>> Vancouver, Wa.
>> Sent from my Galaxy Tab A
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Karen Jones <krjones...>
>> Date: 12/31/18 5:56 PM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: <obol...>
>> Subject: [obol] Eurasian Wigeon at Force Lake
>> Jerry and I saw a male Eurasian Wigeon at Force Lake in Portland (Heron
Lakes Golf Course) around 4 pm today. Possibly the same bird Andy Frank
reported was seen at Vanport? We may look again tomorrow ... for a 2019
bird. Happy New Year!
>> Karen Jones Sutherland

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