Date: 12/26/18 3:19 pm
From: Walter Marcisz <wmarcisz...> [ILbirds] <ILbirds-noreply...>
Subject: Re: IBET Goshawk at Montrose?
I agree that the bird(s) at 0:28 -1:06 and 1:06 -1:19 are both immature Northern Goshawks, for the reasons stated by Geoff. Diagnostic upperpart pattern and wavy tail bands are also easily seen in the 1:06 - 1:19 video.

Walter Marcisz
Chicago, Cook Co.



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On Wed, 12/26/18, Geoffrey Williamson <geoffrey.williamson.21...> [ILbirds] <ILbirds-noreply...> wrote:

Subject: Re: IBET Goshawk at Montrose?
To: "Fran Morel" <franmmmk...>
Cc: "robirdman" <robirdman...>, "IL-Birds" <ILbirds...>
Date: Wednesday, December 26, 2018, 5:02 PM


 









Fran et al.:
I like goshawk as the ID for the two
birds Rob mentions.  The streaking goes well down the
underparts on each, and the undertail coverts are marked in
both cases.  

Geoff
WilliamsonChicago (Cook County)
<geoffrey.williamson.21...>
On Wed, Dec
26, 2018, 3:50 PM Fran M <franmmmk...>
[ILbirds] <ILbirds-noreply...>
wrote:















 









I'm pretty sure photos of
this bird circulated somewhere, and it was decided this was
most likely a Coop, and not a Gos. Both the supercilium and
tail bands seem better for Coop, but I'd like to hear
other opinions.
Fran
MorelEvanston
On Wed, Dec
26, 2018 at 1:06 PM robirdman <robirdman...>
[ILbirds] <ILbirds-noreply...>
wrote:















 









Did anyone record sighting one at Montrose on
11/14/2018?



In my video compilation of immature Cooper's Hawks at


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFLKiczA6gA



it was pointed out to me on a nature FB site, that the
bird(s) at 0:28

-1:06 and 1:06-1:19 are both of immature Goshawk.



This did not occur to me at the time.  The only one I ever
saw before

and got shots of was at Lincoln Park Zoo 11/20/2007.



I was not very close, as I was shooting, from the revetment,
to the

trees across the field, and didn't detect it as extra
large. And when

the bird took off, as another birder had walked
past/under,.  I am not

sure if he even noticed.  I had set the camera to record,
and was

attending to something when it flushed, and would later trim
out about

30" of hawk-less branches.  I knew when I saw that it
was gone, that I

would have the takeoff.



The back view, when viewed later on the computer did impress
me as

unusual, but still didn't register as another
species.



Rob Curtis



Chicago



www.theearlybirder.com























































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