Date: 12/6/18 5:17 pm
From: Wayne Hoffman <whoffman...>
Subject: [obol] Re: VG Swallow & N Rough-winged - Clackamas Co.
Thanks, Hendrik - 

I vaguely remember that too.  Note I was careful to use the word "documented."

I think a couple of years ago I went out on a(nother) limb and predicted that in 10 years Oregon would have winter documentation of all our swallows.

On 12/6/2018 8:12:31 PM, Hendrik Herlyn <hhactitis...> wrote:
I seem to remember a winter martin report a few years back, which brought up the possibility of one of the S American martin species. Don't have the details now, and nothing ever came of it.


On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 5:03 PM Wayne Hoffman <whoffman...> [mailto:<whoffman...>]> wrote:

So which swallows have NOT been documented in western Oregon or Washington in December and/or January?

Purple Martin and maybe Bank?

On 12/6/2018 6:12:35 PM, Alan Contreras <acontrer56...> [mailto:<acontrer56...>]> wrote:
There are a few winter records of VG in the southwestern part of the state. Not regular by any means, like Tree or Barn, but not unheard-of on the south coast in particular.

Alan Contreras
<acontrer56...> [mailto:<acontrer56...>]
Eugene, Oregon []

On Dec 6, 2018, at 3:06 PM, Lars Norgren <larspernorgren...> [mailto:<larspernorgren...>]> wrote:

I would imagine fewer V-g and Rough-wing records for Oregon in December than number of Ruffs detected in some single calendar years.

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018, 1:55 PM Jeff Gilligan <jeffgilligan10...> [mailto:<jeffgilligan10...>] wrote:

Right that it is worth noting. Those species are extremely rare in December. I can think of plenty of Barn Swallow and Tree Swallow records in December, but none for either of those species.

Jeff Gilligan

> On Dec 6, 2018, at 11:25 AM, Aaron Beerman <aaron.beerman...> [mailto:<aaron.beerman...>]> wrote:
> The N Rough-winged (still here) has a new friend this morning. A Violet Green Swallow is here at River Island Natural Island now. Give the colder weather and frost on the trail out here there seems to be is a surprising number of gnats or flies over the small pines, which seems to be the food source.
> I know it’s not the most interesting bird(s) but given the date it seems worth noting.
> Regards,
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