Date: 12/6/18 8:04 am
From: Craig Watson (via carolinabirds Mailing List) <carolinabirds...>
Subject: Re: Selection of Locations for Hotspots
One idea is to have a description of the hotspot with some details. I have
recently suggested hotspots which were accepted in South Carolina, yet an
incoming birder does not know how to bird that particular spot or have any
idea of any nuances about the site. If a short narrative could be added
for each hotspot, or certain hotspots, I think a short explanation would be
helpful. I would be willing to do it, and was going to do so when
suggesting the sites I did, but there was no opportunity to do that, and
the site was not accepted initially. Upon email contact with the editor,
it was accepted because of the additional information provided. If
pertinent information was provided to the hotspot editor at the time of
suggestion, and incorporated into the hotspot information, I think the
hotspot eBird functionality would be enhanced.

Craig Watson
Mount Pleasant, SC

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 10:44 AM Shelley Rutkin <shelleyr...>

> Good morning Jeffrey and All,
> I am the eBird hotspot editor for NC and anyone is welcome to contact me
> any time with questions or problems with hotspots. I have also encountered
> the situation Jeffrey described and I agree that it can be frustrating.
> The problems stem from several issues. First is that we are trying to use
> a pinpoint location to identify an area that is actually a polygon. There
> will probably be a change in eBird allowing definition of the actual
> hotspot boundaries, but don't expect changes any time soon. Another
> problem is that eBird locations have multiple uses - researchers using them
> to understand habitat and where birds actually were observed and birders
> using them to find birds and locations. The instructions from eBird state
> that the pin for trails should be in the middle of the trail. That
> probably helps with analysis, but it's not always most helpful to birders.
> Considering all that, I am leaning more towards putting the pin for new
> hotspots at trailheads and parking areas and I am willing to change any
> older hotspots that are problems. For bodies of water, I am usually trying
> to put the pins at the actual spot birders use (usually at the shoreline).
> Again, I'm always happy to hear from anyone with questions or suggestions
> regarding NC eBird hotspots.
> Shelley Rutkin
> Winston-Salem, NC
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <carolinabirds-request...> [mailto:
> <carolinabirds-request...>] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Blalock (via
> carolinabirds Mailing List)
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2018 8:30 AM
> To: Carolina Birds
> Subject: Selection of Locations for Hotspots
> Greetings all
> In the past few months I have been Birding a great deal in NC and have
> really enjoyed exploring some of the nearby counties eBird Hotspots.
> However on several occasions I have come across Hotspots that have their
> location selection at a middle of a lake or in the middle of a trail and
> not anywhere near for a Birder not from the area would know where to get to
> the best views of the lake or where to park to get on a trail.
> Please keep this in mind when setting up a new Hotspot and if you come
> across one consider moving its location.
> I did this on a trail that I came across in Mecklenburg Co VA early this
> year. The location was on the middle of the trail named incorrectly and
> wasn’t near either one of the two parking areas to assess the trail.
> Thank you and Good Birding.
> From my iPhone
> May God Bless and Keep You
> Jeff Blalock
> 103 Elizabeth Court
> South Boston VA 24592
> 434-470-4352 Cell
> <jcbabirder...>


*Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul - and sings the
tunes without the words - and never stops at all.*

Craig Watson
Mount Pleasant, SC

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