Date: 12/2/18 11:21 am
From: David Irons <llsdirons...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Clatsop Beaches: Dead Albatrossi and Snowy Plovers
Alan,

A better title might be, "Identifying Sandy Masses That Sort of Look Like Birds." With about half these sand-encrusted creatures determining that you are actually looking at dead wildlife is a challenge.

Dave Irons
Beaverton, OR
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From: Alan Contreras <acontrer56...>
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2018 7:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [obol] Re: Clatsop Beaches: Dead Albatrossi and Snowy Plovers

There is a useful book called “Beached Birds” put out by the coasst people, I think. It is printed on waterproof paper and has all kinds of data. Here’s a sample entry.


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Alan Contreras
Eugene, Oregon

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On Dec 2, 2018, at 10:57 AM, David Irons <llsdirons...><mailto:<llsdirons...>> wrote:

Bob makes a good point. This was a hard-learned lesson back in 1978 when good seabird ID resources were non-existent (even before Harrison's "Seabirds" 1983). An older Black-footed Albatross with extensive white on the head and rump was photographed on a pelagic trip out of Garibaldi if I am remembering correctly. At the time, many of us thought it might be a Short-tailed Albatross, but after a little bit of research realized that it was merely an older Black-footed.

Dave Irons
Beaverton, OR
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From: <obol-bounce...><mailto:<obol-bounce...> <obol-bounce...><mailto:<obol-bounce...>> on behalf of Robert O'Brien <baro...><mailto:<baro...>>
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2018 6:03 PM
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Subject: [obol] Re: Clatsop Beaches: Dead Albatrossi and Snowy Plovers

don't have an opinion on the id of this albatross
but it's not unusual for older black-footed Albatross to have a lot of white on their head even a white wash over the entire head
Bob O'Brien

On Sunday, December 2, 2018, Lee Cain <lcain...><mailto:<lcain...>> wrote:
> About 3 people have pointed out the amount of white plumage in the dead albatross and suggested Laysan. The condition of the carcasses was unfortunately not good and the plumage was seriously roughed up - I am stumped as to how to tell for sure. Can anyone point out anything definitive that would ID them one way or another? The bill on the other one was identical color and condition to the one in the photo.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/4t7D2Ds6oP3fNoZZ6
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> Lee Cain
> Astoria

 
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