Date: 11/29/18 8:03 pm
From: Jack Williamson <jack.williamson.jr...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Dharma Center Bluebirds and a request from OBOL members
Jake,

If you are up for it - you're invited to Christmas dinner - REALLY.

<jack.williamson.jr...>
503.539.9695

Sincerely,

Jack Williamson
West Linn, Oregon


On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 6:35 PM Alan Contreras <acontrer56...> wrote:

> This has been a useful and positive exchange. We’d like OBOL to be known
> for that. Thank you.
>
>
> Alan Contreras
> <acontrer56...>
> Eugene, Oregon
>
> www.alanlcontreras.com
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2018, at 6:31 PM, Jack Williamson <jack.williamson.jr...>
> wrote:
>
> Jim,
>
> Your dismay presumes the photographer in question knew he was doing
> something wrong and just didn't care.
>
> I was setting up my camera just a few yards south of you today when the
> photographer/birder now in the hot seat was coming out of the field.
>
> He stopped by my camera on its tripod and we spoke for about 20 minutes.
> He is from Massachutes and is new to birding and bird photography.
>
> He was surprised to hear that he had done anything wrong. Especially
> since the Eastern Bluebird is a ubiquitous species where he is from.
>
> When I explained birders and photographers are ethically bound to observe
> but not interact with our subjects and if our actions cause our subject to
> alter its behavior then we failed.
>
> He responded by saying "Then I failed because when I rose up one of the
> birds immediately flew off..." To which I replied if that turns out to be
> the worst mistake you make you will be way ahead of me.
>
> His photographs of the birds are very good and I told him the images would
> be valuable to the community. That they would be helpful in possibly
> identifying the subspecies and encouraged him to report his observation to
> the Oregon Bird Records Committee and to attach his best images. He said
> he would do that and he would also post his experience to OBOL which we
> also talked about.
>
> This was by all measures a pleasant young man eager to learn and share his
> experiences.
>
> I look at this as a missed educational opportunity for everyone who
> witnessed the inappropriate behavior and failed to speak with the person
> about it right then and there.
>
> Jim, please know that when I say that I am pointing one finger at you
> I pointing three back at me at the same time.
>
> Before this encounter, I would have never walked up to someone to tell
> them what an asshole I thought they were - which is what I commend you for
> not doing in this case.
>
> Jake - if you are reading this - buck up and post your findings :-)
>
> This is a tough group and you just paid the price of admission, don't
> waste it.
>
> Stick with it and you'll find people here are as much or more caring than
> they are critical.
>
> I have additional personal information about my first visit to this
> stakeout site that I will share in another post.
>
> Jack Williamson
> West Linn, Oregon
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 1:43 PM David Bailey <davidcbaileyoregon...>
> wrote:
>
>> The photographer as described was extremely selfish to approach a
>> stakeout so closely. If the birds are harassed they could find s new sight
>> and many hopeful birders may lose out on a memorable twitch. Unfortunately,
>> this happens often with overzealous photographers and stakeout bird,
>> especially the charismatic species like Snowy Owls and of course bluebirds.
>> Sometimes these folks are birders/twitches and sometimes they are more
>> hobbies photographers. Either way, shame on them.
>>
>> David C. Bailey
>> Seaside Oregon
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 13:22 Jim Danzenbaker <jdanzenbaker...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> OBOLers,
>>>
>>> I made the pilgrimage to see the Eastern Bluebirds this morning. After
>>> a half hour wait, they magically appeared (~!!:30) in their usual hover
>>> hunting behavior close to the "yellow tree" to the west of the Dharma
>>> Center parking lot. Thanks to those who have posted directions and tips
>>> for seeing these birds.
>>>
>>> While I was there, several birders mentioned to me that the bluebirds
>>> had been in the field before I arrived but were no longer there due to a
>>> photographer who had walked out into the field with his long camo covered
>>> lens and was sitting on the ground next to the "pond" waiting for the birds
>>> to return. If he was trying to stay camouflaged, it didn't work since he
>>> wore a bright yellow jacket. I had a problem with this for several reasons:
>>>
>>> 1.) Walking out into the field where there were no trails. I thought
>>> this was Dharma Center property.
>>> 2.) Positioning oneself right next to where the bluebirds were known to
>>> favor.
>>>
>>> I took a recognizable photo of the photographer. When the bluebirds did
>>> return, the photographer increased his height so he could get more
>>> photographs. This reduced the amount of time that the bluebirds stayed at
>>> the location. Within about 5 minutes, the bluebirds left again.
>>>
>>> Question for the OBOL community:
>>>
>>> 1.) Should I publicly shame this photographer for his behavior
>>> (encroaching on the bluebirds and walking out in the field) and post a
>>> photo of him to OBOL.*
>>> 2.) Should I forget it and move on.
>>>
>>> * given that OBOL or OBA has a regular photo contest, I don't want this
>>> photographer to get credit for a great photo given what he did to get it.
>>>
>>> Please e-mail me privately with your feedback.
>>>
>>> I know that the bluebirds have been returning to this location and may
>>> have been here for two months and may well stay here for the entire
>>> winter. I don't think this means that its ok for people to walk out into
>>> the field to get a photograph which may adversely affect the movements and
>>> feeding habits of these birds.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your patience in reading this and I appreciate your feedback.
>>>
>>> Keep your eyes and ears skyward.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>> --
>>> Jim Danzenbaker
>>> Battle Ground, WA
>>> 360-702-9395
>>> <jdanzenbaker...>
>>>
>>
>

 
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