Date: 11/28/18 7:15 am
From: Bob Archer <rabican1...>
Subject: [obol] Re: FW: Bean Goose help
Sorry, did not have book in front of me at the time to get correct title
but Reeber= Waterfowl of North America Europe and Asia An Identification
Guide (2015) by Sebastien Reeber. A very fun book for duck and goose fans
to cruise through.

Bob Archer

On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 6:50 AM Evan Hayduk <evan.hayduk...> wrote:

> Not too much from me to add to this discussion, but an offer: we inherited
> a good portion of Wayne’s amazing book collection when he left OR, and
> could loan the Dement'ev et al. Soviet Union volumes he mentioned to
> anyone who can’t find a copy. Feel free to email me directly if interested,
> could meet up in Newport/Waldport.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Evan Hayduk
> Waldport, OR
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2018, at 5:41 AM, Wayne Hoffman <whoffman...> wrote:
>
> Hi, again -
>
> Nestucca bird was Tundra Bean Goose.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 11/28/2018 7:33:46 AM, Paul Sullivan <paultsullivan...>
> wrote:
>
> One further question: Which species did y’all decide the Nestucca NWR
> Bean Goose from 2014 fell into? Tundra or Taiga?
>
>
>
> Paul Sullivan
>
>
>
> *From:* Paul Sullivan [mailto:<paultsullivan...>
> <paultsullivan...>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 28, 2018 4:47 AM
> *To:* <obol...>
> *Subject:* Bean Goose help
>
>
>
> Several people with more knowledge that I have commented on the Bean
> Goose. The resulting discussion has been confusing.
>
>
>
> I understand that there are Tundra and Taiga Bean Geese. The AOS splits
> them, but the Europeans do not. (I think)
>
>
>
> There has been mention of a reference, Reeber, but no name for the
> book/article.
>
> Mike Patterson posted a fairly clear discussion.
>
>
>
> I have Madge and Brun’s 1988 book, Waterfowl, Houghton Mifflin, which
> predates some of the recent research.
>
>
>
> So HELP ME SORT THIS OUT:
>
> What are the English names to go with the following subspecies?
>
> Which are tundra? Which Taiga?
>
>
>
> - fabilis
>
> - johanseni
>
> - middendorffii – largest, most eastern
>
> - serrirostris
>
> - rossicus – small, short bill
>
>
>
> I grasp ideas when I’m given a table. I don’t get it when folks ramble on
> in prose, skipping back and forth between English and Latin names for the
> same thing, as if the reader knew which ones correspond to which.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Paul Sullivan
>
>
>
>
>
>

 
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