Date: 11/28/18 5:42 am
From: Wayne Hoffman <whoffman...>
Subject: [obol] Re: FW: Bean Goose help
Hi, again - 

Nestucca bird was Tundra Bean Goose.

On 11/28/2018 7:33:46 AM, Paul Sullivan <paultsullivan...> wrote:
One further question:  Which species did y’all decide the Nestucca NWR Bean Goose from 2014 fell into?  Tundra or Taiga?
Paul Sullivan
From: Paul Sullivan [mailto:<paultsullivan...>]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 4:47 AM
To: <obol...>
Subject: Bean Goose help
Several people with more knowledge that I have commented on the Bean Goose.  The resulting discussion has been confusing.
I understand that there are Tundra and Taiga Bean Geese.  The AOS splits them, but the Europeans do not. (I think)
There has been mention of a reference, Reeber, but no name for the book/article.
Mike Patterson posted a fairly clear discussion.
I have Madge and Brun’s 1988 book, Waterfowl, Houghton Mifflin, which predates some of the recent research.
What are the English names to go with the following subspecies?
Which are tundra?  Which Taiga?
-  fabilis
-  johanseni
- middendorffii – largest, most eastern
- serrirostris
- rossicus – small, short bill
I grasp ideas when I’m given a table.  I don’t get it when folks ramble on in prose, skipping back and forth between English and Latin names for the same thing, as if the reader knew which ones correspond to which.
Thank you,
Paul Sullivan
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