Date: 10/27/18 9:04 pm
From: Nathan Pieplow <npieplow...>
Subject: Re: [cobirds] Re: birding pifalls
I wholeheartedly second what Joey said.

Glenn, you led with "today I reminded myself I am not the best birder in
the world." But the mark of a good birder is not a lack of
misidentifications. The mark of a good birder is how he or she handles
misidentifications. You are certainly one of the best birders in Colorado.
(An awful lot of us owe you a Golden-crowned Warbler, among many, many
other fine birds!)

"I’d rather be wrong and have a clean list than fudge a rarity." Hats off
to that sentiment. Thanks for everything you do for the Colorado birding
community.

Nathan Pieplow
Boulder

On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 9:30 PM Joey Kellner <vireo1...> wrote:

> Thank you Glenn.
>
> First, for finding and scrutinizing this bird and notifying people of your
> first impressions of the bird (yes, nearly all your first impressions are
> correct :-) ). It is better to get people onto a bird and find out it
> might not be the bird you thought, than the opposite...telling no one and
> then showing photos of a rarity that no one can chase because it left!
> So, for letting us all know what you suspected WAS the right thing to do.
>
> Second, thank you for posting your uncertainty and suspicions. It allows
> all of us to reflect, "Did I, personally, see enough detail on the bird to
> make a positive identification?" Many times when out birding we "blindly"
> accept a companion's sightings. When we bird with a friend or an organized
> group we should, like Glenn, want a clean list for ourselves. Sometimes we
> get caught up in the "chase" and allow "peer pressure" to influence the
> bird identifications we make (or attempt to make at great distances).
>
> Again, a big "THANK YOU" to Glenn for explaining his decision process and
> conclusions. We all need to re-evaluate what we saw...and see in the
> future. Great birders like Glenn DO make mistakes occasionally, but that
> is how great birders became great...they make mistakes and learn. I guess
> I need to make more mistakes!
>
> Thanks Glenn.
>
> Joey.
>
> Joey Kellner
> Littleton, Colorado
>
>
>
> On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 7:51:20 PM UTC-6, Glenn and Laurie wrote:
>>
>> So today I reminded myself I am not the best birder in the world.
>> Something everyone needs to pay attention to. First impressions are often
>> correct but not always. Tony Leukering taught me shape and structure are
>> huge in bird ID. Plumage changes but structure rarely does. I was fairly
>> convinced the Marston duck was a tufted duck. I saw and photo’d the bird
>> fairly close up. In defense of everyone else who reported this bird, it
>> was never close to shore after my initial sighting. From a distance, it
>> appeared to be a TUDU but was not easy to confirm. After looking at my
>> photos, I became suspicious. Shape and structure did not look right. I’d
>> rather be wrong and have a clean list than fudge a rarity.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m ok with mis-IDing this one, because I won’t next time.
>>
>>
>>
>> Glenn Walbek
>>
>> Castle Rock, CO
>>
>>
>>
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>> Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
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